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re: For all the supporters of losing rights due to a cough

Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:31 am to
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:31 am to
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But you do realize there has to be a balance right? We can’t wait until no one in America tests positive for COVID-19.


When did I say anything like this? I have two grandparents living, I have family with cancer, one who recently had a transplant, one with alzhiemers, and one who had a stroke a few years back who never fully recovered. I would rather those people stay protected until stuff is figured out. I know they can just stay inside (because that will be the reply), but they have people living with them who would have to go out, and if this was spreading even more they would be much more likely to catch it. I know this concept is too much for some to grasp.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:31 am to
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While we’re at it, let’s shut everything down until no one dies of cancer, heart disease and diabetes


Yes, because all of those things are spread from person to person.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:32 am to
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While we’re at it, let’s shut everything down until no one dies of cancer, heart disease and diabetes


Let me know when a person with cancer will spread it to three people within a week on average.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72918 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:32 am to
Cars crossing the median is very much a person to person death. How many people did we lose to car crashes last year?

We're giving up freedom for safety.
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Member since Feb 2013
29731 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:34 am to
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until stuff is figured out

And what exactly is that?

This has been my point against shutting everything down over this. When does it stop? There will be no finish line or “final day” of this virus.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:34 am to
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Cars crossing the median is very much a person to person death. How many people did we lose to car crashes last year?


Remind me, unchecked will pedestrian-related deaths increase exponentially day-to-day?

This post was edited on 4/5/20 at 9:35 am
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
21047 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:34 am to
You forgot the sickle and hammer
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17360 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:35 am to
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I would love nothing more right now than national guard tanks and humvees scattered on major roads/bridges in cities and penalizing those who are not staying in their homes


It's scary people like you exist
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Member since Feb 2013
29731 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:35 am to
A death is a death. Are you saying there is a ranking in deaths?!?!?
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:35 am to
Ok great. I think that's an incredibly dumb argument, but you are entitled to your own opinion, just like I am to mine.

You can continue throw out these stupid numbers, and I'll continue to think that we are doing the right thing. I wish they would have done more, sooner. You won't change my mind, no matter how many dumb numbers you want to throw up.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72918 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:36 am to
I'm not sure how pedestrians are involved here. Car crash fatalities dont dramatically increase, they stay high as hell all the time, every day of every year.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:36 am to
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And what exactly is that?


When growth falls under R1 and the medical systems can manage new cases.

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This has been my point against shutting everything down over this. When does it stop?


Your "points" are all over the place and the ramblings of a madman.

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There will be no finish line or “final day” of this virus.


I'll take that bet.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:37 am to
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A death is a death. Are you saying there is a ranking in deaths?!?!?


You people take a comment and twist it into your own stupid conclusions. My point was that the things you named are not spread by person to person contact dumbass.
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Member since Feb 2013
29731 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:37 am to
So you’re waiting for the government to tell you it’s ok to leave your house. Ok
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:38 am to
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Car crash fatalities dont dramatically increase


Oh, wow. So you mean it's nothing like an infectious disease spread.

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, they stay high as hell all the time, every day of every year.


They are actually incredibly low due to safety features and . . . wait for it . . . state regulation.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75980 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:39 am to
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I know this concept is too much for some to grasp.


I grasp it. And that’s a really tough situation to be in man. Excuse my perceived lack of sympathy.


There’s no black and white obviously answer. Hopefully as a country we find the right balance, so that neither path is too grave. But it’s something we have to start talking about and I would expect our leaders to begin developing timelines.
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Member since Feb 2013
29731 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:39 am to
If we’re giving up freedoms to prevent deaths, who draws the line on what deaths are important? Oh yea, the government that’s right.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:40 am to
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So you’re waiting for the government to tell you it’s ok to leave your house. Ok


No, I'm following the statistics and listening to the experts in infectious disease management.

I leave for groceries and things like that and just hang out otherwise. But I also have the ability to comprehend statistics and scale which is clearly lost on many people in this thread.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:40 am to
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We're giving up freedom for safety.


“Those who sacrifice liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither.”
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:42 am to
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If we’re giving up freedoms to prevent deaths,


You've been giving up freedoms to prevent deaths since the day you were born.
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