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re: Follow up to "Did the South ever really have a chance (Civil War)?"
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:00 pm to Ajo Devil
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:00 pm to Ajo Devil
I'd love to see a series on TV or streaming like "For All Mankind" but for this scenario instead. The problem is, in today's Hollywood, there's no way they could make an impartial series
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:03 pm to SlimTigerSlap
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:04 pm to Stephen_Bonnet75
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Italian
Well there goes the Southern European immigrant point
Are you attempting to make a comparison?
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:06 pm to Ajo Devil
South would be made of very independent states as the founding fathers intended. North would be a bloated corrupt federal bureaucracy like you see today.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:06 pm to Ajo Devil
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two countries
What makes you think there would only be two countries?
Secession is like eating Pringles.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:16 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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South would be made of very independent states as the founding fathers intended.
You should do some more research on some of those founding fathers
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:26 pm to Ajo Devil
No. The south gave the Yankees hell, but the Rebs just were not in a position of power with Allies and that access to supplies to do much more than what happened. It also didn’t help that the actual reason the war was fought was preservation of the wealthy to keep their human possessions. Remember poor whites were treated like shite back then too. But still anything had to be better than being owned.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:33 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
Among the many problems we currently endure, is the issue of having a foreign culture pushed down our throats, to the point where it threatens the future of our existence.
An independent south would have have escaped that.
An independent south would have have escaped that.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:50 pm to Penrod
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The south would have denied the vote to blacks because their sheer numbers would have wrested control from conservatives.
do what
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:52 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Among the many problems we currently endure, is the issue of having a foreign culture pushed down our throats, to the point where it threatens the future of our existence.
An independent south would have have escaped that.
I fricking second this. The most noticeable way you can tell is the loss of southern accent from people in the south.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:54 pm to Lima Whiskey
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An independent south would have have escaped that.
How?
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:58 pm to Ajo Devil
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If the South had won, what would the two countries look like today?
The South would never have made it far as a nation, they hitched their wagon to slave labor and agriculture. The Slavery would have ended at some point, but the damage was already done.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 1:00 pm to Stephen_Bonnet75
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South wins by diplomacy and the North doesn’t want to fight a war:
Slavery ends probably around Brazil’s timeline or later, buttt it doesn’t really end
More than likely a greater scale Great Migration of blacks and poor whites go to the North.
The south invades Mexico and fails miserably because it’s only option is to go from up north and not the gulf like the USA did previously
The south doesn’t have the capacity or manpower to fight off Indian raids out west, so west Texas fails to find oil and stuff
By 1930s, anywhere south of Atlanta is seen as abandoned and economically destroyed. The rich planter class has either migrated to the USA, to Brazil, or the border states such as Virginia and Tennessee.
The economically depressed south becomes a haven for communism and radicalism to flourish. Plus, it more than likely imports farmer immigrants from Italy and Russia who express these ideals the most. In addition, mafias are much more prominent in the south than the north. There is conflicts of this due to the anti catholic/racial views of the Confederacy but that won’t have much of a choice at this point. The North is going to outcompete them for Germanic/Protestant immigrants.
IDK after this point tbh lol. More than likely a poorer backwater Argentina, maybe Virginia, North Carolina, and Tennessee apply to come back to the US but the rest of the south gets wrecked.
That certainly is a hell of a take.
Wrong as it may be, it is a hell of a take.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 1:06 pm to Ajo Devil
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If the South had won, what would the two countries look like today?
A relationship like Scotland and England?
Posted on 7/18/22 at 1:38 pm to elprez00
There wouldn’t have been a “Great Depression” if the south would have won. All recessions/depressions are orchestrated by our fearless leaders…just like ‘08 and the one we’re experiencing today.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 1:45 pm to grizzlylongcut
Here is another thought.
The South wins but how much devastation did the South incur to achieve that win.
Where does the South get the money to rebuild?
The South wins but how much devastation did the South incur to achieve that win.
Where does the South get the money to rebuild?
Posted on 7/18/22 at 2:29 pm to salty1
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All recessions/depressions are orchestrated by our fearless leaders…just like ‘08 and the one we’re experiencing today.
Does that also include the one that happened during Trump's administration?
Posted on 7/18/22 at 2:56 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Does that also include the one that happened during Trump's administration?
You mean when majority of the governors in this nation shut their entire states down?
Posted on 7/18/22 at 3:15 pm to grizzlylongcut
We’ve lost so much of what made us unique, which is sad.
My grandparents generation had beautiful Virginia accents, I have a standard American accent though.
My grandparents generation had beautiful Virginia accents, I have a standard American accent though.
Posted on 7/18/22 at 3:24 pm to Ajo Devil
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