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re: Florida woman, 73, is accidentally shot and killed by police
Posted on 8/10/16 at 8:47 am to Topwater Trout
Posted on 8/10/16 at 8:47 am to Topwater Trout
quote:
I used to think this board was smart...but they are a good representation of the public
In hindsight all of these people can say what they should/would have done, but I seriously doubt people would do more than ask if it was safe. Once the cop says yes, who is going to question otherwise?
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Posted on 8/10/16 at 8:47 am to Jcorye1
quote:As the shooter I wouldn't feel comfortable performing this exercise knowing 100% that there were blanks in the gun, loaded myself, much less if someone else loaded the gun for me.
We don't even know if the guy loaded his own weapon
Posted on 8/10/16 at 8:49 am to NYNolaguy1
quote:
Now you blame a population for being too trusting and compliant of police officers?
I am a strong supporter of being compliant with officers in the field but in no way does that mean trust them with your life in a situation like this.
I am blown away any lawyer would have ever approved this type of training...or any supervisors.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 8:49 am to slackster
quote:Trout would do a full safety inspection of the firearm and ammunition, ask to see the officer's qualifications, wear a bulletproof vest and record the incident for posterity's sake.
Once the cop says yes, who is going to question otherwise?
Because that is what an intelligent person would do. If not, well you're just not intelligent.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 8:49 am to Topwater Trout
quote:
I am blown away any lawyer would have ever approved this type of training...or any supervisors.
Exactly...I can't even fathom that.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 8:50 am to ForeverLSU02
Blue Lives Matter
We need to support police now more than ever.
Police are flawless and have never made a mistake due to prejudice or just general stupidity.
We need to support police now more than ever.
Police are flawless and have never made a mistake due to prejudice or just general stupidity.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 8:50 am to Topwater Trout
quote:
I am a strong supporter of being compliant with officers in the field but in no way does that mean trust them with your life in a situation like this.
I am blown away any lawyer would have ever approved this type of training...or any supervisors.
I agree with all this, but you're stirring shite with the rest of your posts.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 8:50 am to slackster
quote:
Once the cop says yes, who is going to question otherwise?
call me paranoid or a pussy but no way I am letting anyone shoot at me until I see the gun fired proving to me they are blanks
Posted on 8/10/16 at 8:50 am to undrafted
quote:Said, literally, not a single person ever.
Police are flawless and have never made a mistake due to prejudice or just general stupidity.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 8:51 am to StrongBackWeakMind
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a full safety inspection of the firearm and ammunition
So he's not wrong there....I think most folks trained on and familiar with firearms would do that. I know I would.
However, like i said to expect that of someone that is not trained on or familiar with firearms is probably a stretch.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 8:51 am to ForeverLSU02
This is the correct response
Performing a "what if" type exercise without being 100% sure no live rounds existed can't be their policy.
Performing a "what if" type exercise without being 100% sure no live rounds existed can't be their policy.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 8:52 am to LNCHBOX
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but you're stirring shite with the rest of your posts
I like you man
Posted on 8/10/16 at 8:54 am to rantfan
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Negligent homicide
This. How does a trained police officer, or really, ANYONE WITH KNOWLEDGE OF FIREARMS, not know they loaded the gun with live ammo?
I also think there has to be a prop gun that fires blanks, and blanks only for this type of training.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 8:55 am to canyon
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without being 100% sure no live rounds existed can't be their policy.
If you have to do that exercise (pointing a weapon at a live person and pulling the trigger) then this is the only way to do it.
I've taken 3 CHP clases in LA now and in each one the first thing that we did was made damn sure that no one in the class had any ammo in the classroom portion and made damn sure that all the instructors guns (if they weren't blue guns) were all clear of any rounds.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 8:55 am to LSU316
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Exactly...I can't even fathom that.
Especially since it was involving the public
Posted on 8/10/16 at 8:55 am to TheDeathValley
I guess I could understand shooting blanks for certain types of training, but surely the fake blue gun would have sufficed for the senior citizen group.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 8:56 am to StrongBackWeakMind
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I guess I could understand shooting blanks for certain types of training, but surely the fake blue gun would have sufficed for the senior citizen group.
So much this.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 8:58 am to LNCHBOX
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So much this.
Or if you have to point the real gun at a live person and pull the trigger...why not even just dry fire. That takes all possibility of this out of the equation because before the class starts you could simply check the room for no ammo and make sure the gun is 100% clear.
Posted on 8/10/16 at 8:59 am to rantfan
quote:Translation: Paid vacation and promotion!
Negligent homicide
:usa: :usa: :usa:Posted on 8/10/16 at 9:00 am to LSU316
quote:
Or if you have to point the real gun at a live person and pull the trigger...why not even just dry fire. That takes all possibility of this out of the equation because before the class starts you could simply check the room for no ammo and make sure the gun is 100% clear.
But how are they going to do a simulation with no bang? /sarcasm
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