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Florida police officer shot and killed a librarian during a drill
Posted on 10/16/19 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 10/16/19 at 5:41 pm
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On Aug. 9, Mary Knowlton, a 73-year-old retired librarian, was participating in a police night hosted by the Punta Gorda Chamber of Commerce when Punta Gorda police officer Lee Coel, 28, shot and killed her with a weapon meant for training.
Punta Gorda city council members approved a $2.06 million settlement with the Knowlton family in November, nearly three months after the shooting.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 5:43 pm to Bedhog
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Lee Coel is charged with one count of felony manslaughter in the 2016
Posted on 10/16/19 at 5:45 pm to Bedhog
That is one where I can't say the officer has for sure fault. He was given a training weapon and it was loaded.
Now if he loaded it, it's different. It was probably marked for training. The ones I've seen had white electric tape on them.
This is like The Crow Michael Masse killed Brandon Lee with a gun he thought was blanks. He didn't load it.
Now if he loaded it, it's different. It was probably marked for training. The ones I've seen had white electric tape on them.
This is like The Crow Michael Masse killed Brandon Lee with a gun he thought was blanks. He didn't load it.
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 10/16/19 at 5:48 pm to Napoleon
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That is one where I can't say the officer has for sure fault. He was given a training weapon and it was loaded. Now if he loaded it, it's different. It was probably marked for training. The ones I've seen had white electric tape on them.
Someone hands you a weapon you check it yourself. Never take anything for granted.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 5:51 pm to Jim Rockford
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Someone hands you a weapon you check it yourself. Never take anything for granted.
It should have been checked by the person handing it.
Then rechecked once received.
And quadruple checked if used for training.
And never pointed at a person you don't intend to terminate.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 5:56 pm to KosmoCramer
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It should have been checked by the person handing it.
Then rechecked once received.
And quadruple checked if used for training.
And never pointed at a person you don't intend to terminate.
This ^
It is tiring though seeing OPs like this used as clickbait.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 5:59 pm to Ellssu
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again
My apologies if this has already been posted. I searched 3 pages back and did not see anything posted about this.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 6:01 pm to Bedhog
She insisted he use a silencer
Posted on 10/16/19 at 6:07 pm to KosmoCramer
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It should have been checked by the person handing it.
Then rechecked once received.
And quadruple checked if used for training.
And never pointed at a person you don't intend to terminate.
Today there is NO reason to use a real weapon in any kind of training like this. There are training weapons that are made for this that can not fire a round. Only active SWAT training in police forces use live rounds in very CONTROLLED situations/locations.
Simunition (fires 'paintball' rounds)
training weapon unable to fire any type of projectile
Posted on 10/16/19 at 6:07 pm to Bedhog
The only thing used for training purposes when pointing at live people is one of those solid block dummy guns. Never anything that can actually hold any kind of live round. Good lord.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 6:08 pm to Macintosh
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frick the police!
So original. So brave.
But there is no excuse AT ALL for using live weapons for training these days. They make training weapons that won't chamber a live round. That is the ONLY thing they should be using.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 6:08 pm to Bedhog
what kind of mickey mouse organization involves civilians in a live fire exercise, blanks or otherwise?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 6:10 pm to 91TIGER
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Simunition (fires 'paintball' rounds)
That pistol doesn't look nearly as cool. Plus the bullets look like little penises.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 6:11 pm to PrivatePublic
LLM.... to protest soon I hope.
But seriously how do you not check the weapon or why use a weapon other than a hand.
But seriously how do you not check the weapon or why use a weapon other than a hand.
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 10/16/19 at 6:12 pm to PrivatePublic
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what kind of mickey mouse organization involves civilians in a live fire exercise, blanks or otherwise?
They actually do this (use non LE personnel) all the time for two reasons.
1. Scenarios that require a lot of people. I.E. school shooting training
2. You want people who don't act like cops playing bad guys and citizens. Cops, no matter how much you tell them not to, will act like cops when the shite hits the fan. Source - I used to do medical training for police departments and getting decent role players meant getting non-police. We never shot anyone. I had very strict safety rules.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 6:21 pm to Napoleon
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That is one where I can't say the officer has for sure fault. He was given a training weapon and it was loaded.
Remind me again what is the first rule of firearm safety?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 6:27 pm to Napoleon
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That is one where I can't say the officer has for sure fault. He was given a training weapon and it was loaded.
Do you even basic gun safety bro? GTFO outta here with that.
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