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re: First time in Europe - things that may surprise the OT

Posted on 9/26/26 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
3520 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 12:58 pm to
The train systems in Europe are generally good to great(Switzerland). The Italian train service is borderline third world.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
46950 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 1:07 pm to
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The Italian train service is borderline third world.




Yeah, no
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
62711 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 1:13 pm to
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Bruh nobody’s reading that bullshite


I did.
Posted by Walnut
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2014
4093 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 1:23 pm to
I haven’t been to Europe since I was a preteen with my family, but the poverty, porn plastered in public streets and pick pockets always stuck with me. I can’t ever take these glowing reviews seriously just from personal experience
Posted by Ron McKelvey
Member since Jul 2026
51 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 1:36 pm to
Rome is north of Chicago which is north of NYC
Posted by Ron McKelvey
Member since Jul 2026
51 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 1:39 pm to
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Everytime this comes up it’s upvoted, yet the inhabitants of the OT in general are vehemently opposed to public transit.
There should be no thing as public transportation. Not a single cent. Let private companies do that if they want. Government should only be responsible for roads, highways and runways.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85896 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 1:43 pm to
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RFK is right, our food is complete fricking shite. It’s more chemical than food


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What's he doing about it?


And what sort of god emperor powers do you think RFK has to completely change the US agribusiness ?
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
4552 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 1:45 pm to
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I think it’s impractical to not redesign our entire infrastructure around public transportation.

I tend to agree, most people here do not live in urban areas. Take for example the bullet trains in Italy. You can go from Rome to Milan in about 3 hours. So you average about 100 miles an hour. If you live there and take the train to visit friends, you probably can easily get on a bus or local train once you reach your destination. Most people live in suburbs here where there is no public transportation. I live in Birmingham and if I wanted to visit friends in Baton Rouge on a bullet train, it probably wouldn’t average 100 mph since the route would be laid out to pick up more places not in a shortest line distance. There also isn’t a bus to take me from the suburb I live in to where a downtown station would be. Once I got to Baton Rouge, I would have to arrange transportation to Prairieville where my friends live. It is a 400 mile drive, so at best let’s say it is a 5 hour train ride. You can add at least 45 minutes on either end of waiting on Ubers and driving. It is a 6 hour drive to Baton Rouge, so no time saved. There wouldn’t be any significant savings on train fare + Ubers. I would also have less flexibility without a car during the trip. If my wife chooses to also go, the cost gets less competitive for the train. The scenario is the same for most cities, even large ones when people live in suburbs.
Posted by Defenseiskey
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2010
2427 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 1:46 pm to
The only city in Europe I honestly didn't like was Paris. Never been to Rome but I would love to visit because I am a huge history buff.
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
3520 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 1:47 pm to
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Yeah, no


Older trains, and on my last trip the following happened
1)stopped at a random station in the middle of nowhere requiring a 30 minute cab ride to my hotel, which was 5 minutes from the station we were supposed to stop at
2) train to Milan runs straight through the station without stopping, even though we had reserved business class seats. 200 euro car ride to Milan to catch our connection
3) had reserved tickets Rome to Stresa direct. Train stops at some random town, need to board a bus that adds 1 1/2 hours to the travel time.

This is all on one trip, so yeah.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
81578 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 2:03 pm to
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And what sort of god emperor powers do you think RFK has to completely change the US agribusiness ?
I dont, but those who were hyping him in 2024 seemed to think he would have those powers. Has he really done all he can?
Posted by Lou Loomis
A pond. Ponds good for you.
Member since Mar 2025
2256 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 2:14 pm to
The part about Rome repeating itself and you almost getting hit by a Vespa was funny. Europe is beautiful because of the age of the architecture. But the rest of it pretty much is lame. You don’t see many cars because they don’t have any options. You don’t see many fat people because they don’t have any options for cars so they walk. I will admit their food is healthier bc they Europe doesn’t allow all the crap to be put in their food like the US. And they don’t have as many fast food places. But unlike here, the people aren’t gluttons either.

Europe gives off the illusion of freedoms, but the people aren’t gluttons either far from it. All their “choices” are dictated by their “democratic” governments, if “democratic “ means socialist.

Basically, their lives are poor or blue collar, living in tiny shite houses, with very limited choices about what to drive, what to do or where to go. Their only outlet is soccer. Otherwise, their lives suck.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
65183 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 2:17 pm to
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Lou Loomis


You’re retarded, aren’t you?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
65183 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 2:18 pm to
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The only city in Europe I honestly didn't like was Paris.


Why didn’t you like paris?
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
4552 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 2:24 pm to
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living in tiny shite houses

There is a huge difference in the size of houses.

Size Comparison of Houses -

• United States: New detached houses average about 2,265 to 2,407 square feet (roughly 210 to 223 square meters).
• Europe: The average size of a home or new dwelling in Europe is roughly 800 to 1,200 square feet (75 to 110 square meters), varying heavily by country:
• United Kingdom: ~764 to 800 square feet
• Germany: ~915 to 946 square feet
• France & Spain: ~957 to 1,200 square feet
• Nordic/Other Countries (e.g., Denmark): ~1,400 to 1,500 square feet
Posted by Nole Man
Somewhere In Tennessee!
Member since May 2011
9508 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 2:40 pm to
Scammers, bracelet guys, and coordinated groups working the crowds hard. Keep your phone zipped, your wallet in your front pocket, and don’t let anyone “gift” you anything.

The Dutch Travel Maniac would like to have a word with you.

Posted by WickedTiger
Member since Apr 2026
262 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 2:48 pm to
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Bruh nobody’s reading that bullshite


Ah, yes people are reading it.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
46950 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 3:38 pm to
Sounds like you didn't book your tickets properly on the last one. I go to Italy multiple times a year and take the trains a lot. Zero issues.
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
3520 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 3:49 pm to
Been to Europe dozens of times, booked the tickets through the appropriate channels.

The manager at the station where the train didn’t stop even radio’s them to ask them why they didn’t stop.

As for the one that stopped in a random station requiring a cab? It was the right train, it simply stopped because they had traffic on the tracks and had no idea when it would be cleared. Even the locals were pissed off.

Congratulations on not having problems. Compared to the UK, Germany, Austria, Switzerland etc, Italian rail is a shite show.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
61970 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 4:06 pm to
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Zero issues.
really? The railroad workers go on strike a lot and the Italian trains are usually late
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