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re: First time in Europe - things that may surprise the OT
Posted on 9/26/26 at 10:20 am to BuckI
Posted on 9/26/26 at 10:20 am to BuckI
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Their public transportation blows anything we have out of the water. I used to think Trump was exaggerating their threat to our dominance, but he is correct.
Everytime this comes up it’s upvoted, yet the inhabitants of the OT in general are vehemently opposed to public transit.
I understand why they are. And I honestly do understand the risk with the implementation of public transit in the manner in which it exists in Asia and Europe. However, those issues are there regardless. You’d think we want to get out of the mess we are currently in with traffic in larger metros.
It doesn’t add up.
Posted on 9/26/26 at 10:25 am to BanachSpace
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Stayed in Trastevere
I went in a shop in Trastevere and when I went to the cashier I couldn’t help but to start laughing. He looked at me surprised, wondering why I was laughing at him and then I explained I was laughing at his shirt. He was wearing a T Shirt that said “Nebraska” and had a picture of snow capped mountains on it. He thought it was funny once I explained it to him. As someone else stated, the locals were all very friendly.
Posted on 9/26/26 at 10:30 am to Odysseus32
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yet the inhabitants of the OT in general are vehemently opposed to public transit.
I'm not opposed. The issue is that a lot of our cities were not designed for public transit. So not only is it impractical, but these projects end up just being money pits that never pan out. The end result is politicians and contractors lining their pockets.
Posted on 9/26/26 at 10:32 am to TheOcean
I disagree.
I think it’s impractical to not redesign our entire infrastructure around public transportation.
Impractical for us? Sure. For our children? Yea. For our grandkids and thereafter? It’s a net positive.
The best thing we can do from the Boomers on down is to realize that the current humans have squandered what those before us have built. And we need to sacrifice for the betterment of those who are going to come after us.
I think it’s impractical to not redesign our entire infrastructure around public transportation.
Impractical for us? Sure. For our children? Yea. For our grandkids and thereafter? It’s a net positive.
The best thing we can do from the Boomers on down is to realize that the current humans have squandered what those before us have built. And we need to sacrifice for the betterment of those who are going to come after us.
This post was edited on 9/26/26 at 10:33 am
Posted on 9/26/26 at 10:39 am to WWII Collector
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look for some wwii Italian stuff.. thx. wwiic
I was disappointed that I didn’t see old coins, old books, or any type of antiques or artifacts for sale. You see low priced old Roman and Greek coins for sale all over EBay. There was one coin shop I saw in Athens but you had to have an appointment to go in. The lack of those types of items makes me even more doubt of the authenticity of stuff you see on EBay. My son told me that the laws there are very strict on selling that stuff and most of what you see here was brought over prior to the laws being enacted.
As far as WWII, I did have a tour guide point out the only bridge in Florence that the Italians didn’t blow up to keep the Americans out. The shops on it use to be where they slaughtered cows and skinned them to make leather. The guide said they would the throw the carcasses in the river below. I would think historically most cities had a bit of an odor issue.
Posted on 9/26/26 at 10:53 am to LemmyLives
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Take it with a grain of salt, because this is utter bullshite
He was in Med and Adriatic areas. You do not see any of that in those areas.
Posted on 9/26/26 at 10:57 am to Big Gorilla
quote:In the leather goods stores OP mentioned multiple times. Those people arent crafting that stuff there. They "work" on the same belt or wallet day after day to convince you.
Saw lots of people get had
The smoking is unbelievable.
Posted on 9/26/26 at 10:58 am to Odysseus32
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I think it’s impractical to not redesign our entire infrastructure around public transportation.
This sound dangerously like destroying much of what is there, to rebuild anew.
Tell me, how does public transportation make much sense in cities made of suburbs? There are small suburbs in much of Europe. They do not have public transportation in those suburbs. What we have is orders of magnitude greater than that.
Also, distances. Every single time a European visits America, they are floored by the distance between cities. It takes me just as much time from Davenport Iowa to the border of Nebraska as it does to drive from Munich Germany to Rejika Croatia. In the US, I never leave Iowa. In Europe, I drove through four countries.
Posted on 9/26/26 at 11:00 am to TutHillTiger
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It’s more chemical than food.
It always cracks me up when people cite high obesity rates among the poor in America as a sign of America's economic prowess, as if the poor are gorging themselves daily on cornucopias of raw fruits and vegetables, nuts and seeds, wholesome grains, beef, seafood, etc.
People are fat in America because they eat hyper-caloric, non-satiating slop designed in labs by multi-billion dollar corporations to be as addictive as possible. Soda, cheetos and ruffles, frozen pizzas and burritos and hot pockets, little debbie cupcakes, chips ahoy, cosmic brownies, and deep fried everything aren't nutritious, but they'll sure as hell make you fat.
Posted on 9/26/26 at 11:03 am to TutHillTiger
quote:What's he doing about it?
RFK is right, our food is complete fricking shite. It’s more chemical than food
Oh and while not as fat as the US...
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In 2022, about 59% of adults in the WHO European Region were overweight or obese.
This post was edited on 9/26/26 at 11:15 am
Posted on 9/26/26 at 11:08 am to Jake88
Posted on 9/26/26 at 11:09 am to OU Guy
Posted on 9/26/26 at 11:11 am to OU Guy
Posted on 9/26/26 at 11:17 am to OU Guy
Seems like an airhead some were commenting on earlier in this thread.
Posted on 9/26/26 at 11:32 am to UtahCajun
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This sound dangerously like destroying much of what is there, to rebuild anew.
Tell me, how does public transportation make much sense in cities made of suburbs? There are small suburbs in much of Europe. They do not have public transportation in those suburbs. What we have is orders of magnitude greater than that.
Also, distances. Every single time a European visits America, they are floored by the distance between cities. It takes me just as much time from Davenport Iowa to the border of Nebraska as it does to drive from Munich Germany to Rejika Croatia. In the US, I never leave Iowa. In Europe, I drove through four countries.
This is what people who want to copy Europe’s public transportation systems here in the US can’t (or won’t) seem to fathom.
Posted on 9/26/26 at 11:36 am to Ramblin Wreck
One of my recent trips to Tuscany.
Posted on 9/26/26 at 11:43 am to Jake88
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In the leather goods stores OP mentioned multiple times. Those people arent crafting that stuff there. They "work" on the same belt or wallet day after day to convince you.
I didn’t see any places in Rome where stuff was or was appearing to be made. What I mean by leather shops was places to buy purses, backpacks, wallets, etc. We did go in a leather shop in Florence where a lady was making purses off to the side that seemed legit. I’m sure the rug shop where a lady was making a rug in Turkey was for show. Incidentally, the silk rugs there looked very cool but they were $28K. If I spent that type of money on a rug. I’m sure I would be punished by my dog having diarrhea on it.
Posted on 9/26/26 at 11:47 am to Ramblin Wreck
quote:Yeah. In Venice they have the old lady "making" the goods like belts, wallets, purses.
What I mean by leather shops was places to buy purses, backpacks, wallets, etc
Posted on 9/26/26 at 12:18 pm to Clames
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no shite, they can only eat what they can afford and elevators are pay-to-use in most commercial and residential complexes. Not going to get too fat on a small food budget and walking up and down several flights of stairs every day.
What a profoundly stupid attempt at a point
Posted on 9/26/26 at 12:19 pm to Ramblin Wreck
I loved my time in Rome. Incredible place.
Good stuff, OP.
Good stuff, OP.
This post was edited on 9/26/26 at 12:20 pm
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