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Posted on 12/7/17 at 8:30 am to
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80838 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 8:30 am to
quote:

Ot ballers will say never put down less than 30%.



OT Ballers pay cash.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26357 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 8:32 am to
Talk to a mortgage loan officer, preferably a local one who knows the market in your area. There's different types of loans that have differing qualification and down payment requirements.

My loan is an FHA mortgage and I had to put 3.5% down. Got seller to pay $2,000 towards my closing costs and I ended up with around $11K out of my pocket at closing on a $215K purchase.

If you can put 20% down, you won't have to pay PMI in your monthly note. I think PMI is something like $100 a month on my note.
This post was edited on 12/7/17 at 8:35 am
Posted by DuckManiak
Member since Nov 2011
3856 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 8:33 am to
I saved and bought my land in cash. Got a loan to build house and put 20% down. Out of pocket total: ~$71,500

Note is cheap, though.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74908 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 8:35 am to
Expect to have to come up with money for inspections and costs of the little things.
You may want specialists for foundation and insect inspection. All of which you pay for.
A friend of mine was about to go into closing in a house. We were already measuring for new floors.
It rained and water came up through a crack in the floor. Come to find out the inspector and the seller were friends. Totally left out the giant crack under the carpet in the living room.
My friend still lost $2600 backing out.
So there are costs that can arise not even going towards your house.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104484 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 8:37 am to
Yeah, inspection and appraisal are on the buyer regardless of seller-paid closing costs, if I remember right.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45206 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 8:37 am to
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Financed through NFCU
Nice perk.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 8:40 am to
I know this is pulling the cart way before the horse, but avoid two things when moving into your new home:

1. PODS
2. All My Sons moving

You're welcome (spoken from very bad experience). All My Sons scratched the living frick out of the wood floor of the house that I moved into, and basically just blew it off. PODS is expensive as hell, and will do stupid shite like drop off the container with the door facing backwards from the house.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 8:54 am to
First thing I did was speak to a loan officer at a local bank. I got lucky and met with a very helpful guy that my parents knew from school. Got pre-approved for a loan to know what I could afford and all the details. Word of warning....realize that they are willing to approve you for more than you can really afford.

This guy also really helped us through the process since the house we landed on was for sale by owner. He basically let us know what paperwork we needed to do contractually for the offer, inspections to get, etc.

If you live in a high rent area, you are confident you will be in this house for years, etc. then it's not the end of the world to pay PMI. But I know for me, I was going to be in that house for about 5 years max (ended up being 3). If I'd have had to pay PMI, I basically would have not paid any of the principal down at all. The people we bought from had PMI and I remember in the closing, the seller was there for some reason and mentioned the cash he was getting out of the sale after owning the house for like 7 years. It was depressing. I already had more equity in the house with my downpayment than this guy had gotten out of the sale. Hell, I think my closing costs were more than he got.

Again, that's not to say it's not better than rent in some cases. But you can quickly get in a cycle of never building equity by constantly upgrading houses and always paying PMI.
Posted by Brian Wilson
Member since Mar 2012
2397 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 8:57 am to
Ask the money board and go talk to a mortgage banker. They do info sessions all the time.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
50859 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:09 am to
dont be scared of FHA...my first house was an FHA loan at 2% down and 11% APR (1990) and we didnt have two nickels to rub together otherwise

you'll pay PMI as noted by others but once you get better situated you can refinance to a traditional mortgage and get rid of the PMI. smart home buying is the quickest way to help build wealth
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
18344 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:11 am to
If you talk to a real estate agent, ask about any first time buyer programs. When my wife and I bought our first home in BR, there was a program that paid 5% down on our house. It was a big help.
Posted by BrohemAlem11
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
13924 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:11 am to
Thanks OT... a lot of this has been very helpful. I started the same topic in the money board. I think the most reassuring thing is that my savings isn't dooming me. I was really worried about the amount I had saved....I've lived kinda large at times and was worried I killed my future out the gate. This has shown me I have options. Thanks again
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45571 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:13 am to
quote:

each have about $10,000 in savings


Throw that into Bitcoin. Wait a couple of weeks. Pay cash for a $1MM house.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86142 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:16 am to
quote:

You usually need 20% down for a conventional home loan. Less than that, you will probably have to get an FHA loan which carries PMI.




This is so wrong.

I love this place.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
6043 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:16 am to
quote:

As far as closing costs, you can likely get most of them paid by the seller, but you'll still have to come out of pocket some.


Do not count on the seller paying the closing costs. Your plan must include having to pay the closing costs otherwise you and your wife may be in for heartbreak. In a market such as DFW's right now, the buyer is paying the bulk of the closing costs. In a hot or tight market, the sellers dictate who pays the closing costs not the buyer. Set aside "at least" 5% for possible closing costs. It will probably be less though....2%-3%.

Plan on signing an arse load of paperwork. Plan on stress. Plan on the inspection finding "issues" with the house that cost money to repair. Make the seller pay for the repairs or lower the price. Plan on possibly not getting the house. Until the offer is accepted, it's not your house to purchase. shite happens. Our current house was the fourth house we offered to buy. We went as high as $20K above asking on two of them.

Cash rules the real estate world. A cash buyer offering the same amount as you will get the house. It's less of a headache for the seller.

At the end of the day, the process is long and sometimes frustrating but when they put those keys in your hands, it's a fantastic feeling. It's worth every headache and issue that "will" arise.
Posted by Tiger_n_Texas
Member since Aug 2014
1304 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:17 am to
quote:

Isn't it the FHA loan that require you to refinance once you have the equity to remove PMI? If doesn't drop off automatically?


FHA loans use MPI. Conventional use PMI. They are essentially the same thing as far as monthly bill goes. However removing MPI is much more difficult than PMI. PMI falls off automatically where as MPI may be required to be paid for the life of the loan unless you refinance.
This post was edited on 12/7/17 at 9:21 am
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86738 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:17 am to
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This is so wrong.

I love this place.


Why not correct him then instead of being a passive aggressive douche?
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45571 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:18 am to
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Why not correct him then instead of being a passive aggressive douche?


Burn!!!
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104484 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:19 am to
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Why not correct him then instead of being a passive aggressive douche?


That doesn't sound like as much fun.


Regarding, closing costs, both of my home purchases (BR area) the seller paid the max closing costs, which I think is 3% of the sale value? Maybe I just got lucky and hit the right seller at the right time.
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:21 am to
quote:

Thanks OT... a lot of this has been very helpful. I started the same topic in the money board. I think the most reassuring thing is that my savings isn't dooming me. I was really worried about the amount I had saved....I've lived kinda large at times and was worried I killed my future out the gate. This has shown me I have options. Thanks again



In your situation, since you only have around 20k in savings combined, I'd recommend not blasting through your account for a down payment. Having the extra liquidity is necessary in home ownership because shite breaks or happens all the time. As much as PMI sucks, you can always re-finance a few years down the road. Depending on where you buy, you can do FHA loans with very little down payment. I don't know much about those as I've only dealt with conventional, though.

Put down maybe 5-10% if possible, and then over time add extra towards your principal each month to get PMI gone faster. Do not live outside of your means and buy a house at the very top of your range. You should be able to save more on a mortgage that is lower than rent. First time homebuyers especially need to make sure the home value will at least stick or increase so you can build the equity on the next home so do your homework. Some neighborhoods are built fast and poorly built, too so be careful.

ETA: Also, agreeing with LSUBoo, when buying, do EVERYTHING you can to get seller to cover closing costs, even if it means going up on the price of the house. Upfront costs need to be as low as possible.

Good luck to you.
This post was edited on 12/7/17 at 9:22 am
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