re: Female Researchers Starting To See The Damage Of Feminism and #MeToo

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I'm 42, but having to be in the current dating game, I've really come to understand what the 18 - 34 male group has to deal with and it can be depressing even for the most confidant man

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Honest, no snark question: Wouldn’t dating apps help? I mean, they would see what they are getting, you don’t have to worry about the approach, and it’s self selecting in the sense that the women on the apps are also looking for a relationship.

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Also, the current college demographics are slanted towards more women than men. Most colleges break along the lines of 60% female and 40% male. Think about that for a second. If each sex paired off equally with the other, 33% of girls would be left out alone. That thought troubles me quite a bit.

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What makes it worse is, even with the 60/40 gender imbalance, the bottom 80% of those males won't get a chance with any woman at their college. Remember, on average, women rate 80% of men as below average. That's where the 80/20 rule comes into play.

The top 20% of men have more women available to them than ever before. But this also means those men don't have to commit. And unless the woman is also in the top 20%, those top 20% men are going to use those women as a one night stand or something casual.

So the top 20% of men will have a better experience with women and stay in the game. Whereas a huge majority of the bottom 80% of men will have a negative experience with women and largely just give up by their mid or late 20s. And we're already seeing that.

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The largest impact feminism has on me is that I chose to stay home and raise three amazing children to adulthood, with all the sleepless nights, sports, school projects.. and yet I feel judged as lazy by society for not also maintaining a career at the same time.

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Once we were grown, my mom would occasionally make comments like this and I always thought it was shitty. She was a great lady and awesome mom.

And you know who would make her feel that way? Not men, other women. And never a doctor or an engineer. Some fricking bitch who was a damn realtor or something would be the one to give her the condescending look for being a stay at home mom.

Exactly, hypergamy compounds the problem. There are a lot of great guys who are 5’s but end up with just as many opportunities as 2’s.

Reminds me of a woman who couldn’t figure why her brother never dated and had basically given up. She decided to take over his dating apps, profiles etc to help him. She viewed him as above average in every sense, not 8 to 10 range, but definitely better than most. She thought this was just him being lazy. Turned out his hopelessness was real. She witnessed first hand what he had been dealing with as months went by without any positive feedback.

We need to destroy dating apps and put kids and young adults face to face, interacting with each other again.

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Your thoughts? Anyone else here watch these videos and find them as fascinating as I do?

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I'm in my 40s, happily married with kids, and have no desire to ever go on the dating market.

I keep up with all of the latest conversations on dating stories, intersexual dynamics, and relationship statistics. It's fascinating to me to see how our society is shifting, particularly when considering the world my kids are entering into.

I think feminism has done good work in some areas. Women should be free to work, get educated, and choose the lifestyle they want to live. The opposite viewpoint would be akin to Afghanistan where women are completely subjugated within a patriarchal system. Those women need feminism, and their men need it as well.

The problem is that feminism--like most ideological and theoretical frameworks--splits into sections that favor extremism. I remember the 90s throwing in some jokes about "man hating" women. There was the Futurama episode of the Amazonian society where men didn't exist except to procreate. Or in Jurassic Park:

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Dr. Ian Malcolm: "God creates dinosaurs, God destroys dinosaurs. God creates man, man destroys God. Man creates dinosaurs."

Dr. Ellie Sattler: "Dinosaurs eat man. Woman inherits the earth."

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In today's society, social media distributes such rhetoric with a velocity that is difficult to contain. There is a large segment of women who speak openly online about how much they HATE men. They are fearful of men. They believe men should be lonely or that they should disappear. They pinpoint isolated groups of men (who also suck BTW) who write demeaning and perverse comments on women's pages. Then they extrapolate the behavior of those small groups of men onto the entirety of men. They conclude that men hold no value.

There was a recent viral trend where girls would ask if it was worth it to get married. Plenty of single cat ladies would say, "NEVER!" But what was alarming was how many women would say, "I'm married to a wonderful man, and we're living a fulfilling life. But I would NEVER encourage a girl to get married."

Why?

Because they've been poisoned.

I think women have a natural disposition to desire caretaking from their partner. It makes sense, right? Women want to nest; men want to provide. That leads to an air of unaccountability because women want and will communicates those desires perpetually. In a harmonious relationship, men enjoy providing, and what might come across as "nagging" is actually an organic characteristic of building a family. It's not nagging when the partners are giving and taking with compassion, care, and respect.

When social media enters the picture, women are told they are they only ones giving and the men are taking. They are the only ones with compassion, care, and respect and the men are selfish, obstinate, and oppressive. They are the ones who can blossom in this world; men are merely hindrances to their ability to thrive.

Hence why women believe they deserve a 6-6-6 man. Because how else can they conceptualize value when they believe all men are worthless?

Anyways--I'm writing too much of an essay here. I don't think it's going to get better for a long time. And I do worry about the future when men feel so ostracized by women that they feel the need to retaliate.

I’ve never understood it. All the woman I know and in my life are submissive to alpha dominating men. What did I miss?

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Anyways--I'm writing too much of an essay here. I don't think it's going to get better for a long time. And I do worry about the future when men feel so ostracized by women that they feel the need to retaliate.

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Great points. I remember that line from Ellie Sattler in Jurassic Park. Meant to be a throwaway line, but a good example of some of the toxic aspects of Feminism. Women like to talk about "toxic masculinity" all the time without ever acknowledging that there can also be "toxic femininity".

I wish I could be more optimistic myself, but I share your view. I think it's going to get A LOT WORSE before it gets better. Within 2 generations I could easily see men and women essentially living in two different societies. Not in terms of physical separation. Men and Women will still interact with each other at work, within family functions and in the occasional social function. But otherwise men and women will live different lives and really won't even consider each other as potential partners. The rates of gay and lesbian relationships will skyrocket. But more than that, a lot of men and women will just become asexual.

I don't think men will retaliate as much as they will just continue to isolate and retreat. But that will have significant social impacts, such as the following:

- Men will no longer be willing to join the military to defend their country.
- Men will no longer attempt to intervene when a woman is in danger.
- Men will no longer show any respect to a woman that they wouldn't show to a fellow man (opening doors, giving up a seat on a train/subway, etc.)
- Men will no longer seek positions of responsibility as much.
- Men will no longer seek public service, such as joining police/fire departments or being involved with a community church.
- Men will no longer be active in their communities (retreating to individual outdoor hobbies like hunting, fishing or hiking or indoor hobbies like gaming where they do not have to leave their house/condo/apartment).
- Men will supplement women with AI girlfriends, AI sexbots and AI porn.

Men will essentially withdraw from society. And with that, economies will crumble and loneliness will skyrocket.

The only way I see men actively retaliating against women is if women try to destroy that peace. If women see men are happy with their friends, hobbies and AI companions and try to take that away. That is when it could get violent.

But I agree I don't see it getting better in the near future. Look at Japan and South Korea. That's the route we're going.

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But you now have almost two entire generations of women (younger half of Millennials and all of Gen Z) who have been told almost their entire lives that men are these out of control predators. That all men are going to r*pe you. That all men are dangerous.

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This is regionalized as well. I think in conservative states, especially young people at southern universities, dating is still relatively normal.

Well executed troll post. You're getting a lot of bites.