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re: Federal Judge has had about enough of the Archdiocese of NOLA bankruptcy case
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:33 am to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:33 am to LSUFanHouston
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What bothers me is this... the people who did these horrible things are long gone. They are not being asked to pay. The people who are being asked to pay are people who had nothing to do with this.
This how it works… we all pay taxes regardless if we benefit off said tax.,, what other recourse is available besides suing the institution
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:33 am to More beer please
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The lengths come of y’all will go to make excuses for the Catholic prove exactly why the issue exists in the first place.
No one is making excuses
Dig up the bodies of the pedo priests and feed them to dogs
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:36 am to LSUFanHouston
Arch Bishops have been covering up Abuse for years. Pay the people admit all mistakes and go forward.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:38 am to LSUFanHouston
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What bothers me is this... the people who did these horrible things are long gone. They are not being asked to pay. The people who are being asked to pay are people who had nothing to do with this.
The church is being asked to pay. The church protected their rapists.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:51 am to LSUFanHouston
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The institution that the abuse flourished under is being punished.
Not really
You can’t punish walls and buildings, and the people in charge of that institution are long gone
So, if you are in a car wreck with a Fed Ex truck and you are severely injured, and the driver of the Fed Ex truck (who 100% caused the wreck) is killed in the wreck, you don't think Fed Ex (as the driver's employer) should be held liable for the driver's fault and pay you damages? Answer that question honestly and then get back to me about "...punishing walls and buildings" when the person who actually caused the harm is "long gone".
This post was edited on 4/29/25 at 11:52 am
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:54 am to LSUFanHouston
quote:many of them are, many are not. And the enablers of them are every bit as culpable and many more of them haven’t gone anywhere
the people who did these horrible things are long gone
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:54 am to LSUFanHouston
The institution pays for the crimes that their people perpetrated over the years in which years of administration worked to cover up.
So yes, they need to pay up. Also there can be settlements without completely bankrupting the entire system
So yes, they need to pay up. Also there can be settlements without completely bankrupting the entire system
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:55 am to LSUFanHouston
This is a gross misunderstanding of how punishment works. In its most simple form, punishment seeks to make the victims whole again and punish the criminal by making them give up a large piece of money or property.
In terms of a corporation or organization, the orgainzation is a legal entity that must cover their debts. It doesn't matter if the CEO or criminals within the organization are gone. You can argue with me all day long, our laws do not recognize the departure of criminal employees as reason to let the entire organization off the hook. That is pure fantasy.
Our laws also recognize that you can make an example of a criminal or an organization responsible for criminals in order to deter other criminals or corrupt organizations. This is important.
Overall the OP's analysis is a non-starter.
In terms of a corporation or organization, the orgainzation is a legal entity that must cover their debts. It doesn't matter if the CEO or criminals within the organization are gone. You can argue with me all day long, our laws do not recognize the departure of criminal employees as reason to let the entire organization off the hook. That is pure fantasy.
Our laws also recognize that you can make an example of a criminal or an organization responsible for criminals in order to deter other criminals or corrupt organizations. This is important.
Overall the OP's analysis is a non-starter.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:56 am to LSUFanHouston
Actions have consequences.
Just because its related to religion don't excuse it.
Just because its related to religion don't excuse it.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:56 am to tadman
Exactly
Posted on 4/29/25 at 12:05 pm to LSUFanHouston
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The people who are being asked to pay are people who had nothing to do with this.
It is beyond well documented that the church, as in institution, knew it had child molesters in its ranks; and, instead of dealing with them, moved the molesters around to different parishes where they could continue to molest for years.
The church had everything to do with it and is being required to pay. IThe church should be liquidated.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 12:06 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Like a government, the diocese only gets money from collections
You’re saying the diocese doesn’t have extensive business investments and revenue other than passing the plate?
Posted on 4/29/25 at 12:12 pm to shiphascomein
To continue your analogy: assume the driver had been in 35 other wrecks over the last 10 years and FedEx kept moving him around the country to different FedEx facilities. At the first move it's no longer vicarious liability/respondeat superior. The institution is the cause of the injury. It has its own fault.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 12:15 pm to LSUFanHouston
The Pope is just another gang banger, but he heads the worlds biggest gang of pedophiles and rapists that has ever existed and he protects them at all costs. Without the fear of retribution these evil creatures prey on the faithful and the ignorant without remorse.
Some time back, a successful young man from our community returned to visit his parents on the farm where he grew up. His proud parents took him to church with them to show him off to the parishioners and the community. When departing the church after services they were met at the church door by the priest and the young man proceeded to deck the priest with a single blow. The clueless old ladies of the community are still wondering why this former alter boy treated his former priest so grievously. ;-(
Some time back, a successful young man from our community returned to visit his parents on the farm where he grew up. His proud parents took him to church with them to show him off to the parishioners and the community. When departing the church after services they were met at the church door by the priest and the young man proceeded to deck the priest with a single blow. The clueless old ladies of the community are still wondering why this former alter boy treated his former priest so grievously. ;-(
Posted on 4/29/25 at 12:17 pm to LSUFanHouston
nobody knows what will happen before June but if the archdiocese loses its bankruptcy protection the lawsuits will come fast & furious as the discovery is pretty much done and the evidence is on record. If they don’t figure this out the consequences will be self inflicted
Posted on 4/29/25 at 12:39 pm to LSUFanHouston
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What bothers me is this... the people who did these horrible things are long gone.
Those priests weren’t independent contractors.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 12:50 pm to Demshoes
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Cardinal Mahoney will be part of Pope Francis' funeral mass and ceremonial casket closing. So, no lessons learned. Victims deserve compensation.
That.
Every pedophile or person covering for them should be in prison.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 12:57 pm to LSUFanHouston
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What bothers me is this... the people who did these horrible things are long gone. They are not being asked to pay. The people who are being asked to pay are people who had nothing to do with this.
I nominate this for the worst take on TD in 2025.
Including all hot takes on the rant during baseball season.
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:03 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Like a government, the diocese only gets money from collections. So you are asking the people who had nothing to do with this to pay up
You know you don’t have to give money to an organization that harbors pedophiles and then covers it up right?
Stick to putting AGI on people’s tax returns, you’re typically a fricking moron otherwise
Posted on 4/29/25 at 1:07 pm to LSUFanHouston
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The only way for the victims to get what their attorneys are asing for, is to completely liquidate and shut down the archdiocese, all the churches and affiliated schools, sell off all the property and assets. And if that happens, again you aren't punishing the people who did this. You are hurting people that had nothing to do with this.
Those terms are acceptable.
The Catholic Church is a criminal organization.
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