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re: FDA finally names dog food brands linked to deadly heart disease in dogs

Posted on 7/1/19 at 7:50 pm to
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19158 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 7:50 pm to
I’m interested in a raw diet, does that company ship to you?

Am I better off making it myself?

We are currently feeding Purina Pro Plan
Posted by Bronson2017
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2019
2201 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 7:52 pm to
My dog literally just ate her own shite, so I have bigger fish to fry right now.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24217 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 8:03 pm to
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DCM is a serious but rare condition. Of the 77 million dogs in the U.S., 0.5% to 1% have DCM, and of those dogs with DCM, fewer than 0.1% are speculated to have DCM related to diet, although that is not scientifically proven


From the AJC
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83035 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 8:22 pm to
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Am I better off making it myself?



You can make dog food yourself, but the issue is that they need certain nutrients that won't be provided by just meat and veg. I assume this company factors that in to their recipes.

I don't remember too much, but I know the times I've looked into it, you had to mix in egg shells every so often for calcium and things like that.
Posted by Sir Drinksalot
Member since Aug 2005
16871 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 8:24 pm to
You can order from Ollie or another company like that.

Or you can make it yourself. Easiest way is raw meat, eggs (and shells) and dynovite.

It takes 2 hours and you can make 8 days worth.

I have a giant dog so Ollie just got too expensive (it was great and we loved it). We can make our own for half the price.
This post was edited on 7/1/19 at 10:01 pm
Posted by LSUFAITHFUL
Member since Oct 2007
1089 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 9:51 pm to
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I'm not certain, but I do not expect O'l Roy to be "grain free". So I guess they are safe,,,, from this diagnosis.


I think you missed the point of his post. He’s basically saying people that spend the money on higher end grain free dog food will also spend the money to get a proper diagnosis.

Those that buy ol Roy will likely just put their dog down (or it will just die), without an expensive array of tests for diagnosis.

Thus, it may not be the food. It may just be that this clientele is more likely to spend the money to actually get a diagnosis while Ol Roy and Purina eaters get this disease too.

BTW, for those Purina supporters...Purina has been recalled a number of times and they have been sued for thousands of dog deaths

This post was edited on 7/1/19 at 9:52 pm
Posted by emboslice
Member since Dec 2012
4521 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 9:56 pm to
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I’m interested in a raw diet, does that company ship to you?

Am I better off making it myself?

They don’t ship to me, they deliver to a small all natural pet store out here. I’d suggest searching for some around you, what area are you in? They may offer shipping and I’d look into them!

We tried cooking his food - 1 part protein 2 parts veggies (he was recovering from kidney disease that’s why we went with those portions). It was cheaper, but it took us like 4 hrs a week to prep. Plus, we weren’t doing organic all of the time, and for his situation we needed to be. Upon the advice of someone who has been doing raw diet for years for her animals, we switched to something pre-made as they include all the blood, organs, etc. Dogs need the balance in their diet

Guess the answer is depends if you have the time / patience to make it yourself. Plan to do a bit of research. Happy to answer any questions you have, there are a couple of supplements we have added to help his digestion as well.
tdemboslice @ gmail

https://www.answerspetfood.com
This post was edited on 7/1/19 at 9:59 pm
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 10:22 pm to
What is the x-axis there?
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46517 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 11:35 pm to
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Did you know that Hills Science diet is crap for food too?

Your vet gets paid by the company to sell that shite. Will even send their child to vet school for free if they sell enough bags.


Not a single word of this is even remotely true
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46517 posts
Posted on 7/1/19 at 11:38 pm to
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Veterinarians take 1 course in school regarding nutrition and it’s put on by Hills, Purina, or Iam’s.

Also some of their equipment is paid for by these same companies in exchange for them putting bags of their dog/cat food in the front of their store.


Also not true. Where do you people get this shite from?
Posted by Will Cover
Davidson, NC
Member since Mar 2007
40228 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 5:25 am to
I feed mine Muenster Milling. No recalls, 5 star rated at Dog Food Advisor and is sourced and produced in USA (Muenster, TX.)

It’s considerably more expensive that most brands found at pet speciality stores but I see the difference in my pooch. I order it direct from the manufacturer.

Two other brands to consider are Annamaet (just as expensive as MM - not found in big box or specialty stores either) and Canidae (less expensive than first two mentioned, however it can be found at Petco and Petsmart).
This post was edited on 7/2/19 at 6:02 am
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42369 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 6:32 am to
Solid Gold Wee bits for my guy
Posted by griddle
Member since Jan 2017
159 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 8:10 am to
quote:

AubieALUMdvm

Talked to my vet yesterday afternoon and he recommend I get off Taste of the Wild.

We found a Purina Pro Focus with no poultry that we will phase into his diet and see how that goes.

Thanks for the thread and your insight
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10973 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 4:11 pm to
Just bought another 30 lb bag of Victor Lamb and Sweet potato grain free. Been using that the Hero beef for 3+ years, changed from multiple TOTW back then. Normally mix lamb and beef, but I don't like buying 60 lbs during hot weather for storage purposes. The 2 of them get plenty of brisket, chicken, leg of lamb, etc when training, plus they both like numerous fruits and vegetables, + kefir or plain Greek yogurt. Vet has asked multiple times what I feed the 11 year old. No problems on senior panel work ups, Victor seems to be very HQ food with no recalls.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
27939 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 4:17 pm to
i know, a while back, the Vet recommended Blue Buffalo, and we bought that pretty much exclusively... was supposed to be this great dog food, but evidently, it wasn't...
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 4:17 pm to
I remember the good ole days of feeding them whatever. You know, because they were dogs.
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
10355 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 4:25 pm to
I switched from Purina pro plan to the Canidae all stage. I just want to see if there is a difference after a few months. If there isnt he will go back on Purina.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14724 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 4:50 pm to
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Speaking for the hipsters, of course.



Most pets are fat and out of shape from eating the hipster food.
I had an eight year old hunting beagle that I sold. The new owner bred her when she was eleven and she raised five healthy puppies. I never read a dog food label. She ate Diamond, and Sportsmix 24/20. She was still hunting hard at age thirteen before a tumor killed her.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
42465 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 4:53 pm to
wtf. blue buffalo is what we've been using for years.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
42465 posts
Posted on 7/2/19 at 4:54 pm to
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My dog literally just ate her own shite, so I have bigger fish to fry right now.




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