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Fauci and Covid Vaccine During Pregnancy

Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:16 am
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:16 am
Of all the Covid shenanigans, this topic infuriates me the most and now the truth is coming out about the miscarriages the vaccine caused specifically those who were coerced to take the vaccine in their 1st trimester. This was especially important to me bc I had a close family member who was pregnant at the time and thankfully she decided not to get vaccinated despite the huge pressure to do so.

I remember reading the original study saying that miscarriage rate were approximately the same for the vaccinated vs unvaccinated in the study. On the surface, that wasn’t a false statement but when you dug into the data you could see that they lumped together women who received the vaccine in their 1st trimester with those that received the vaccine in the second and third trimester. Here is why that is important. Women rarely lose their babies to miscarriage if they make it through the 1st trimester.

If you look at the study, women who took the vaccine in the 1st trimester had an extremely high rate of miscarriage, much higher than normal but the % came down to the normal rate of miscarriage when you factored in all the women who received their vaccine in the 2nd and 3rd trimester.

Below is from the study

[embed]Among 827 participants who had a completed pregnancy, the pregnancy resulted in a live birth in 712 (86.1%), in a spontaneous abortion in 104 (12.6%), in stillbirth in 1 (0.1%), and in other outcomes (induced abortion and ectopic pregnancy) in 10 (1.2%). A total of 96 of 104 spontaneous abortions (92.3%) occurred before 13 weeks of gestation and 700 of 712 pregnancies that resulted in a live birth (98.3%) were among persons who received their first eligible vaccine dose in the third trimester[/embed]

Unless I read this wrong, if a woman got the vaccine in the first part of her pregnancy then she had a very high rate of miscarriage, where as, if they received the vaccine at the end then an extremely low rate of losing baby. Yet the vaccine was recommended for all pregnant women.

I can clearly remember all the shaming that was done on social media trying to get pregnant women to vaccinate no matter the trimester they were in.

Early Study on the Vaccine and Pregnancy
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:17 am to
If anybody in our times deserved to be tarred and feathered, it's Fauci.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23211 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:26 am to
I just couldn’t believe the recommendation given what the data actually included in the study showed as I quoted above. Women in the 1st trimester clearly should NOT have received the vaccine and the miscarriage rate data clearly showed that.

How many lives were lost due to scared mothers being COERCED and in many cases SHAMED by close family and friends to “follow the science”?!?!
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 7:28 am
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:29 am to
Help me out here: What is first trimester vaccinated rate vs first trimester non-vaccinated rate. It's an interesting topic.
Posted by Ingeniero
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:31 am to
You're reading it wrong, or being misled by people who are reading it wrong.

The results you're referencing are being misinterpreted because they only show completed pregnancies. At the time of that study, most women who had gotten a vaccine during the first trimester were still pregnant. Meaning, the only way that their pregnancy was "completed" was if they had the baby early, were very late first trimester when they got the vaccine, or miscarried. Everyone else was still pregnant, i.e., had not miscarried.

The follow up study showed a miscarriage rate of between 12 and 14% for women who got a vaccine in early pregnancy, which is exactly in line with the general population:

LINK
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:37 am to
You are reading it wrong.

The study on looked at data from December 14, 2020, to February 28, 2021, and involved 3,958 participants.

Only 827 completed their pregnancy, due to the short timeframe that this data was being collected.

As you noted, most miscarriages happen in the 1st trimester, so of the 827 that completed pregnancy, it would make sense that most of the miscarriages would be in those that were in the first trimester. The problem is that we are still missing the data from the other 3,131 women.

This is why this is "Preliminary Findings" in the study title.

Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:51 am to
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As you noted, most miscarriages happen in the 1st trimester, so of the 827 that completed pregnancy, it would make sense that most of the miscarriages would be in those that were in the first trimester. The problem is that we are still missing the data from the other 3,131 women.


Has this data ever been produced?
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23211 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:54 am to
From the article you sent

quote:

Pregnant persons are at risk for severe coronavirus disease 2019 (Covid-19), and infection with severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) during pregnancy is associated with increased risks of preterm birth and other adverse maternal and neonatal outcomes.


I would like to see this data.
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 7:56 am
Posted by LSUBoo
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:56 am to
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If anybody in our times deserved to be tarred and feathered, it's Fauci.


Why are you letting him off so easy?
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86706 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 8:01 am to
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Has this data ever been produced?


See Ingeniero's post.

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I would like to see this data.


They include the citation.

LINK
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 8:20 am to
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I would like to see this data.


If you clicked on the little "1" after your quote it literally takes you to the study ( LINK

quote:

Results 435 studies were included. Overall, 9% (95% confidence interval 7% to 10%; 149 studies, 926 232 women) of pregnant and recently pregnant women attending or admitted to hospital for any reason were diagnosed as having suspected or confirmed covid-19. The most common clinical manifestations of covid-19 in pregnancy were fever and cough (both 36%). Compared with non-pregnant women of reproductive age, pregnant and recently pregnant women with covid-19 were less likely to report symptoms of fever, dyspnoea, cough, and myalgia. The odds of admission to an intensive care unit (odds ratio 2.61, 95% confidence interval 1.84 to 3.71; I2=85.6%), and invasive ventilation (2.41, 2.13 to 2.71; I2=0%) were higher in pregnant and recently pregnant than non-pregnant women of reproductive age. Overall, 970 pregnant women (0.2%, 123 studies, 179 981 women) with confirmed covid-19 died from any cause. In pregnant women with covid-19, non-white ethnicity, increased maternal age, high body mass index, any pre-existing maternal comorbidity including chronic hypertension and diabetes, and pregnancy specific complications such as gestational diabetes and pre-eclampsia, were associated with serious complications (severe covid-19, admission to an intensive care unit, invasive ventilation, and maternal death). Compared to pregnant women without covid-19, those with the disease had increased odds of maternal death (odds ratio 6.09, 95% confidence interval 1.82 to 20.38; I2=76.6%), of admission to the intensive care unit (5.41, 3.59 to 8.14; I2=57.0%), caesarean section (1.17, 1.01 to 1.36; I2=80.3%), and of preterm birth (1.57, 1.36 to 1.81; I2=49.3%). The odds of stillbirth (1.81, 1.38 to 2.37, I2=0%), and admission to the neonatal intensive care unit (2.18, 1.46 to 3.26, I2=85.4%) were higher in babies born to women with covid-19 versus those without covid-19.


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Conclusion Pregnant and recently pregnant women with covid-19 attending or admitted to the hospitals for any reason are less likely to manifest symptoms such as fever, cough, dyspnoea, and myalgia, but are more likely to be admitted to the intensive care unit or needing invasive ventilation than non-pregnant women of reproductive age. Pre-existing comorbidities, non-white ethnicity, chronic hypertension, pre-existing diabetes, high maternal age, and high body mass index are risk factors for severe covid-19 outcomes in pregnancy. Pregnant women with covid-19 versus without covid-19 are more likely to deliver preterm and have an increased risk of maternal death and of being admitted to the intensive care unit. Their babies are more likely to be admitted to the neonatal intensive care unit.

Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 8:25 am to
My wife was pushed to take the vaccine early in its rollout, in her first trimester. She had a miscarriage after.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42734 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 8:28 am to
That was like over 5 years ago. You should just move on. I mean, who really cares? Why are you obsessed? We just need to move past this so we can heal as a county. Didn’t you know Trump asked for this vaccine? It was a scary time, we needed it.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 8:32 am to
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If anybody in our times deserved to be strapped into the electric chair and livestream it for the entire world to watch, it's Fauci.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23211 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 8:34 am to
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Pre-existing comorbidities, non-white ethnicity, chronic hypertension, pre-existing diabetes, high maternal age, and high body mass index are risk factors for severe covid-19 outcomes in pregnancy.


Here is the big caveat as per normal with Covid (pregnant or not)
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23211 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 8:37 am to
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That was like over 5 years ago. You should just move on. I mean, who really cares? Why are you obsessed? We just need to move past this so we can heal as a county. Didn’t you know Trump asked for this vaccine? It was a scary time, we needed it.


Because I don’t want history to repeat itself. Trump was trying to get any available treatments. I commend him for that.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112578 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:03 am to
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STEVED00
Now that you have seen the final results of the study are you ready to edit your OP?
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27994 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:09 am to
My wife was pregnant during the covid vax days. I was adamantly against her taking it due to the baby. In my mind, there was no way they could know if it was safe. Her OGBYN said it was up to her. He was non-committal; however, I do remember at one of her appointments, the nurse was going through some checklist, and when my wife told he she wasn't vaxxed, the nurse made some cunty comment and tried to make her feel stupid and a bad mother.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23211 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:25 am to
I reviewed and still feel like they were pressured/coerced/shamed for no real benefit and questionable results. Does that make you upset?
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 9:27 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:25 am to
Completely anecdotal evidence, but my wife is in healthcare and had to get the vaccine late first to early second trimester. My child has ASD.

Not saying it a cause, but we will always question it
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