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re: Fauci and Covid Vaccine During Pregnancy
Posted on 8/18/26 at 12:05 pm to STEVED00
Posted on 8/18/26 at 12:05 pm to STEVED00
quote:Way to skip the second study that was all about miscarriages and 1st trimester vaccination
MCMs are in children actually born, correct? This doesn’t seem like it has anything to do with miscarriages but I’m still reading it.
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 12:08 pm to lsupride87
Here is the thing
As it relates to the virus:
You had some people who were scared, so they wanted to lockdown and mask up on their own. That’s fine. It’s ok to be scared for a novel virus
But then it got weird when they wanted to be right about being scared, to the point they wanted the virus to have a high death rate and even post false info to try and justify their thoughts
AND
As it relates to the vaccine
You have some people hesitant to take a new vaccine. That’s fine and nothing wrong with that. But in order to be right and justify their reasons, they then actually root for the vaccine to be deadly and bad.
Even to the point of posting false data to support their feelings
It’s completely odd behavior
As it relates to the virus:
You had some people who were scared, so they wanted to lockdown and mask up on their own. That’s fine. It’s ok to be scared for a novel virus
But then it got weird when they wanted to be right about being scared, to the point they wanted the virus to have a high death rate and even post false info to try and justify their thoughts
AND
As it relates to the vaccine
You have some people hesitant to take a new vaccine. That’s fine and nothing wrong with that. But in order to be right and justify their reasons, they then actually root for the vaccine to be deadly and bad.
Even to the point of posting false data to support their feelings
It’s completely odd behavior
Posted on 8/18/26 at 12:18 pm to lsupride87
Why would you post a study that had nothing to do with the topic?
On to the second study.
Miscarriage rate per person-days? Trying to understand what that even means other than 3.6 is almost double 1.9.
Since I’m not an expert on this I asked Google AI if the 1.9 to 3.6 shift is significant and this was it’s response
On to the second study.
quote:
After a median duration of follow-up in pregnancy of 139 days (IQR 139–139), miscarriage occurred at a rate of 3.6 per 10 000 person-days among remotely first-time vaccinated women and 3.2 per 10 000 person-days among those recently vaccinated, in contrast to a rate of 1.9 per 10 000 person-days among unvaccinated women (Table 2). The median (IQR) gestational age at miscarriage was 9 (7–12) weeks among recently vaccinated women, 9 (6–11) weeks among remotely vaccinated and 8 (6–11) weeks among unvaccinated individuals.
Miscarriage rate per person-days? Trying to understand what that even means other than 3.6 is almost double 1.9.
Since I’m not an expert on this I asked Google AI if the 1.9 to 3.6 shift is significant and this was it’s response
quote:
Yes, 1.9 per 10,000 person-days is substantially less than 3.6 per 10,000 person-days from a statistical and relative perspective.Here is how the two rates compare:Relative Reduction: The rate of 1.9 represents an approximate 47% decrease compared to 3.6.Rate Ratio: The higher rate (3.6) is nearly 1.9 times higher (almost double) than the lower rate (1.9).
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 8/18/26 at 12:18 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
Yep. Fauci is an evil little beast.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 12:21 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Even to the point of posting false data to support their feelings
I thought it was crazy that US was RECOMMENDING 1st trimester women get vaccinated. Obviously other places shared my concern at least early on in the process. I’m in total agreement that there was very little risk mid to late pregnancy.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 12:24 pm to LegendInMyMind
quote:
The actual study didn't back up your claims, so you pivoted to "feelings", huh?
Which study?
Posted on 8/18/26 at 12:27 pm to STEVED00
Anecdotally, my wife and I got pregnant with our first 2 almost instantly. Our third took around 18 months to conceive, which had us worried.
We were trying for our third during/shortly after when we got the vaccines. I remember reading afterward that it could take around 18 months for your body to process all the proteins/toxins from the vaccines, so I definitely attribute that to Fauci and the COVID vax.
We were trying for our third during/shortly after when we got the vaccines. I remember reading afterward that it could take around 18 months for your body to process all the proteins/toxins from the vaccines, so I definitely attribute that to Fauci and the COVID vax.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 12:41 pm to STEVED00
Again, the decision was made to recommend vaccination for pregnant women once data started rolling in that it was safe to do so.
As of 2025, Norway's health institute doesn't recommend vaccination outside of people with comorbidities, but they don't say that it's dangerous for non high risk groups to get the vaccine: LINK
In fact, they specifically say that the vaccine isn't dangerous for pregnant women:
Then when you go to the citations, they reference this study titled The Risk of Spontaneous Abortion Does Not Increase Following First Trimester mRNA COVID-19 Vaccination LINK
It doesn't get much more clear than that.
As of 2025, Norway's health institute doesn't recommend vaccination outside of people with comorbidities, but they don't say that it's dangerous for non high risk groups to get the vaccine: LINK
quote:
The Norwegian Institute of Public Health recommends that the following groups should be vaccinated with a booster dose before the autumn-winter season:
People in care homes and nursing homes
Age group 75 years and older
The age group 18–74 years who are part of a risk group
Age group 12–17 years with serious underlying illness
Age group 6 months – 11 years with serious underlying illness after individual assessment
In fact, they specifically say that the vaccine isn't dangerous for pregnant women:
quote:
mRNA vaccines against COVID-19 can be used during pregnancy and breastfeeding.
Observational data show that vaccination of pregnant women against COVID-19 does not have an adverse effect on the course of pregnancy for either the mother or the fetus [8,9,13].
quote:
Data from vaccinated pregnant women in countries including the USA, Israel and Norway have not shown any signs of harmful side effects (13-15). Nor has there been any evidence of an increased risk of miscarriage, malformations or premature birth in pregnant women vaccinated against the coronavirus (16).
Then when you go to the citations, they reference this study titled The Risk of Spontaneous Abortion Does Not Increase Following First Trimester mRNA COVID-19 Vaccination LINK
quote:
The odds of spontaneous abortion were non-significant for both versions of the mRNA vaccine (Pfizer BNT162b2 AOR = 1.04, CI = 0.91–1.12; Moderna mRNA-1273 AOR = 1.02, CI = 0.89–1.08). Overall, our data indicated that the risk of spontaneous abortion after mRNA COVID-19 immunization during the first trimester of pregnancy is commensurate with the predicted risk in non-vaccinated pregnant women.
It doesn't get much more clear than that.
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 8/18/26 at 12:49 pm to Sev09
quote:
Anecdotally
quote:
definitely
You can't get more definitive than anecdotally.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 12:53 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
quote:
If anybody in our times deserved to be tarred and feathered, it's Fauci.
frick that. He should ride the lightning.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 12:54 pm to STEVED00
There were so many things that infuriate me about Fauci, and TBH the COVID vaccine for pregnant women ranks pretty low on that list. Although maybe I would care more if I had been a woman who was pregnant during COVID.
Like he shouldn't have mandated the vaccine for anybody, and I'm not 100% sure they should have even approved the vaccine for people under 65.
And I hate his lockdown advice even more than his vaccine advice.
Like he shouldn't have mandated the vaccine for anybody, and I'm not 100% sure they should have even approved the vaccine for people under 65.
And I hate his lockdown advice even more than his vaccine advice.
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:00 pm to lsupride87
quote:
You refuse to accept that the vaccine was safe and actually effective
You can’t be serious.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:05 pm to lsupride87
I'm not one of those people who thinks that the COVID vaccine caused hundreds of millions of people to drop dead. But I do think it had a pretty poor safety profile compared to almost any other vaccine that's been approved. Like the COVID vaccine probably caused severe side effects in one in 10,000 people or so to take it, whereas other vaccines might cause those side effects in 1 in a million people.
And lol if you think that the vaccines were effective. The claimed effectiveness went from 95% effectiveness against infection to- I don't even know what the vaccines were claimed to be effective at doing by the end.
And lol if you think that the vaccines were effective. The claimed effectiveness went from 95% effectiveness against infection to- I don't even know what the vaccines were claimed to be effective at doing by the end.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:13 pm to UFFan
quote:Solid pull something out my arse statement
Like the COVID vaccine probably caused severe side effects in one in 10,000 people or so to take it, whereas other vaccines might cause those side effects in 1 in a million people.
quote:Is it worth me posting all the data showing hospitalizations and deaths plummeting at the time the vaccine rolled out? Or will you just ignore that?
And lol if you think that the vaccines were effective.
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:17 pm to lsupride87
I think a lot of blame goes towards Fauci and Biden for their narrative on the vaccine rollout. Biden's "if you get vaccinated, you will not get sick, you will not die" did massive damage because it's not rooted in reality. Something as simple as "these vaccines lessen the chance of infection, and do a great job at preventing hospitalization if you do get sick. We're seeing something like 90% reduction in trials but that number could go down because the real world is complicated" would've gone so much further than whatever retarded campaigns they were rolling out.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:22 pm to Ingeniero
Biden and many others were lying sacks of shite saying you can’t get Covid if vaccinated
It’s also a massive lie to say the vaccines failed or weren’t effective
They are baiting opposite ends of lying spectrum
It’s also a massive lie to say the vaccines failed or weren’t effective
They are baiting opposite ends of lying spectrum
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 8/18/26 at 4:10 pm to lsupride87
Curious to see these data sets as well.
Posted on 8/18/26 at 4:32 pm to STEVED00
quote:
Source: approximate monthly counts based on CDC provisional mortality data (shape illustrative).
quote:
Source: US CDC MMWR surveillance, 24 jurisdictions, Oct 2021-Dec 2022 (mm7206a3).
Posted on 8/18/26 at 4:49 pm to lsupride87
Study mentioned
Ok. Iam guessing this is the report. I’ll review but this study looks on the surface more that you need a booster to get efficacy up. You aren’t doing so well in your links so far though.
The first gotcha one was all late term data bc, wait for it, the countries were NOT recommending the vaccine in 1st trimester. 2nd one had nothing to do with miscarriages and 3rd showed vaccinated with an almost double the miscarriage rate as unvaccinated in 1st trimester.
Ok. Iam guessing this is the report. I’ll review but this study looks on the surface more that you need a booster to get efficacy up. You aren’t doing so well in your links so far though.
The first gotcha one was all late term data bc, wait for it, the countries were NOT recommending the vaccine in 1st trimester. 2nd one had nothing to do with miscarriages and 3rd showed vaccinated with an almost double the miscarriage rate as unvaccinated in 1st trimester.
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 8/18/26 at 6:40 pm to STEVED00
quote:You literally ignore all facts and are actually outright lying in your post above
The first gotcha one was all late term data bc, wait for it, the countries were NOT recommending the vaccine in 1st trimester. 2nd one had nothing to do with miscarriages and 3rd showed vaccinated with an almost double the miscarriage rate as unvaccinated in 1st trimester.
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 6:42 pm
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