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re: Fauci and Covid Vaccine During Pregnancy

Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:30 am to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:30 am to
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reviewed and still feel like they were pressured/coerced/shamed for no real benefit and questionable results. Does that make you upset?
Thats a completely different premise than your OP trying to make claims the miscarriage rage was 86%

You can be upset about how people were coerced, doesn’t bother me a bit. Pedaling and regurgitating false information that should be clearly false to anyone who has common sense or take 1 minute to confirm the data does “bother me” and should bother everyone, especially considering politicians are publicly broadcasting the lies

I thought we didn’t like lying politicians?
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23211 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:35 am to
I made a claim that the data telling people to vaccinate was questionable and I still believe that. Not sure why you feel the need to continually stand up for it. The data still doesn’t back up the recommendation and certainly didn’t at the time

I saw close friends and family members shamed for their decisions so yeah I’m salty.
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 9:37 am
Posted by purpleblackandgold
BR
Member since Aug 2007
198 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:36 am to
This again?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112577 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:38 am to
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I made a claim that the data telling people to vaccinate was questionable and I still believe that
How? Your entire study you posted was shown to be a bogus annd bastardized interpretation and it was laid out and shown to you and now you bury your head and deny it? What is questionable about any of the now 100s of thousands of data points?

Look, you are no different than the Covidians that pushed false info to support lockdowns. You refuse to accept the actual data about the vaccine just as they did with the virus
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 9:39 am
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23211 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:41 am to
That was the data available at the time. The data saying they met the standard miscarriage rate included those who got the vaccine late in pregnancy.

What do I refuse to accept? That it didn’t do what they said it would do? Is that even up for debate at this point.

My point from the beginning that it was bullshite that they pushed this vaccine on people that were of no risk for the actual disease in order to protect grandma which we found it later that it didn’t actually prevent transmission so grandma wasn’t even protected.
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 9:45 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112577 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:48 am to
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That was the data available at the time. The data saying they met the standard miscarriage rate included those who got the vaccine late in pregnancy.
NO

The study followed through and they can and did give miscarriage rates based on which trimester the shot was given…..

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What do I refuse to accept? That it didn’t do what they said it would do?
You refuse to accept that the vaccine was safe and actually effective

Many people do

It’s simple, if one can’t accept the following statements they can’t accept facts :

Covid was not a dangerous virus for the majority of people

And

The Covid vaccine was safe and effective

The days overwhelmingly supports the above two facts. That has nothing to do with how they rolled out the vaccine or how they messaged it
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 9:49 am
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23583 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:49 am to
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That was the data available at the time. The data saying they met the standard miscarriage rate included those who got the vaccine late in pregnancy.



This is what you said in your OP:


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If you look at the study, women who took the vaccine in the 1st trimester had an extremely high rate of miscarriage, much higher than normal but the % came down to the normal rate of miscarriage when you factored in all the women who received their vaccine in the 2nd and 3rd trimester.


That's not true. It's a misreading of the results. Women who were vaccinated in the first trimester were at no higher risk of miscarriage than women who were vaccinated later or not vaccinated at all.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23211 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:50 am to
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The Covid vaccine was safe and effective The days overwhelmingly supports the above two facts. That has nothing to do with how they rolled out the vaccine or how they messaged it


Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112577 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:51 am to
Yeh, laugh as you are the one that has a pre-k level interpretation of a study in your OP….
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40518 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:51 am to
Why are you okay with being wrong and sharing wrong information?

You got got. Own it and stop misleading others.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23211 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:55 am to
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A total of 35,691 v-safe participants 16 to 54 years of age identified as pregnant. Injection-site pain was reported more frequently among pregnant persons than among nonpregnant women, whereas headache, myalgia, chills, and fever were reported less frequently. Among 3958 participants enrolled in the v-safe pregnancy registry, 827 had a completed pregnancy, of which 115 (13.9%) were pregnancy losses and 712 (86.1%) were live births (mostly among participants vaccinated in the third trimester). Adverse neonatal outcomes included preterm birth (in 9.4%) and small size for gestational age (in 3.2%); no neonatal deaths were reported. Although not directly comparable, calculated proportions of adverse pregnancy and neonatal outcomes in persons vaccinated against Covid-19 who had a completed pregnancy were similar to incidences reported in studies involving pregnant women that were conducted before the Covid-19 pandemic. Among 221 pregnancy-related adverse events reported to the VAERS, the most frequently reported event was spontaneous abortion (46 cases).


In the results section at the top of the report, they mention the 86% came from the 827.
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 9:57 am
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23211 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:58 am to
Gotcha. It’s clearly safe and effective
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112577 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:58 am to
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In the results section at the top of the report, they mention the 86% came from the 827.
Dude what are you doing?
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23211 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 10:00 am to
If that was an in inconsequential stat, why put it in the results section.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112577 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 10:01 am to
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If that was an in inconsequential stat, why put it in the results section.
You cant be helped here
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23211 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 10:03 am to
Ok. Plus it’s also coming out in the Fauci hearings that other experts were questioning the decision where it comes to pregnancy and the vaccine.

You can laugh but personally witnessing close friends being publicly coerced and even shamed by other close friends on this topic hit different. There was NO benefit to young and healthy people to get this vaccine bc they were at essentially zero risk of anything serious. The people mentioned above were all young and healthy.
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 10:09 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112577 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 10:06 am to
It’s actually terrifying. You are an educated person and you refuse , or simply can’t comprehend, EXTRMELY EASY to interpret data

And now you will continue to spread it to as many people as you can.

Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23583 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 10:09 am to
I'm telling you that the statistic you're claiming is not correct. The study that's being passed around claiming an 80%+ miscarriage rate does not say what you think it does.

82% of women did not miscarry after being vaccinated in the first trimester. Lots of those pregnancies were still ongoing, meaning they did not miscarry. The only way for a pregnancy to be "completed" before full term is to have a miscarriage (in this context)

Put another way, imagine someone were doing a study on those big alien concussion helmets that football players wear. In the study, 100 guys are wearing them. During the study period, 10 guys retire, 8 of which were due to concussions, 2 had a bad knee or something.

90 guys are still playing football, 8 concussion retired, 2 bad knee retired. Is the career-ending concussion rate with the helmets 8/10 or 8/100?
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23211 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 10:15 am to
It’s terrifying that you don’t see we were lied to and manipulated for “safety”. Maybe I misread but it was also misleading to begin with and it certainly wasn’t clear. When the recommendation came out the data set wasn’t even complete.

Young healthy people should not have been vaccinated bc it provided no benefit bc there was no risk AND didn’t stop transmission.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112577 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 10:15 am to
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It’s terrifying that you don’t see we were lied to and manipulated for “safety”.
Where is the lie here?

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AND didn’t stop transmission.
It without a shadow of a doubt helped to stop transmission
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 10:17 am
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