re: Ex-officer guilty in shooting death of lady who was boiling water. Previous topic here

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If I remember right, didn’t the woman actually try to sort of throw the boiling water at him? I remember you could see the water on the floor in the video.

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You’re not remembering that right. Even if she had thrown boiling water, it still wouldn’t have posed a serious threat. When you throw water from a pot, it breaks into droplets, disperses, and cools almost instantly. By the time that mist reaches someone fifteen feet away, it’s closer to warm bath water than a scalding mass.

So even if events happened as you recall and he fired after she threw it, he’d have already realized he wasn’t in serious pain before deciding to shoot her in the face. That’s reinforced by the fact that he never sought medical treatment or even claimed to have burns.

If the goal is officer safety, sane tools are distance, cover, and clear commands. He chose gunfire. He chose poorly.

Correct. Most could barely get out of high school. Actually. Out of every ten police officers I know probably one has a brain.

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You’re not remembering that right. Even if she had thrown boiling water, it still wouldn’t have posed a serious threat. When you throw water from a pot, it breaks into droplets, disperses, and cools almost instantly. By the time that mist reaches someone fifteen feet away, it’s closer to warm bath water than a scalding mass.

So even if events happened as you recall and he fired after she threw it, he’d have already realized he wasn’t in serious pain before deciding to shoot her in the face. That’s reinforced by the fact that he never sought medical treatment or even claimed to have burns.

If the goal is officer safety, sane tools are distance, cover, and clear commands. He chose gunfire. He chose poorly.

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I agree. Which is why I literally said this:

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I also remember this dude escalating this super fast and handling this is pretty much the worst way possible for everyone involved. So I’m good with him being charged for killing her.

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I can’t even figure out why they pulled their guns.

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Way worse than Floyd.

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The one where he died of an OD?

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He got kicked out of the army, had DWIs, was on his 4th or 5th stop as an officer.

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I didn't know all of this.

That's fricking horrific

This incident reminds me of a cop in Arizona shooting and killing a man that was on his hands and knees, while complying with commands given by the officer. That cop just wanted to kill somebody.

I just watched the Daniel Shaver and read the story. The cops where called b/c the hotel reported someone pointing a gun out the hotel window based on a call they got from an outside witness. When cops got there they had to assume Shaver had the gun. Initially, he wouldn't come out of the room. When he did, he repeatedly disobeyed commands , possibly b/c he was intoxicated but he disobeyed commands none the less. As he got close to the police in his crawl, for some inexplicable reason he reaches behind him and they fired. He was told repeatedly not to make any such move. They had no way to know if he was reaching for the gun they were called about. But who the hell points a gun out of a hotel window? That's why the cop was acquitted.

Is there a thread or link??

I am not going to even bother because anyone who has seen the video knows that is a load of horsehit. The cop wanted to kill someone that night and set up a situation where it was impossible for the average person to comply without giving him the furtive movement he was dreaming about.