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re: EPA to require that cars and trucks achieve an average of 52 mpg average by 2026

Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:12 am to
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
28041 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:12 am to
Sleepy Joe at it again
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5713 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:12 am to
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Electric vehicles have much greater acceleration rates versus gas engines and have as much power for towing and hauling.

Once the battery technology gets better (lighter, more distances, quick recharging) the gas engine will be replaced. The gas engine will go the way of the coal-fired steam engine.



That's great. So you let the "market" take care of that. If the technology is as good as you say it is, it will happen naturally. But it should never be government mandated. Can you understand this concept?
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
2381 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:14 am to
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fleet-wide fuel economy average


Does this just mean that they put out an hybrid hot wheels sized car that gets 100 mpg and a truck that gets 14 and the fleet is averaging 52 mpg?

There's no other way to average 52 mpg with combustion engines within that time frame.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70991 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:15 am to
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but it's also how you get innovation that will push the boundaries.


No it isn't.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41343 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:16 am to
Probably
Posted by DallasTiger
THE Capital City
Member since Jan 2004
4514 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:16 am to
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This will directly cause more deaths from accidents but who gives a shite I guess if it makes some idiots feel good for a couple days.


No it won't. You sound like Jeff Rosen when he was over at DOT (prior to his move to DOJ) causing political-driven chaos in the auto sector.
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
3382 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:17 am to
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it's also how you get innovation that will push the boundaries


If the market demanded it, the innovation would already be here.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31774 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:26 am to
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If the market demanded it, the innovation would already be here.




This. The government didn’t outlaw horse and buggies within 10 years of the first car on the road.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
21982 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:40 am to
its a Ford youll be replacing that starter well before 100k
Posted by Yat27
Austin
Member since Nov 2010
8338 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:46 am to
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like most responsible people I'm not into blowing coal.


You're more into blowing dudes.
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 9:49 am to
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drive your F150 and Ram 1500 like an idiot.


There’s that all inclusive liberal ideology. If it’s not what I think it’s dumb. What a beta cuck you are
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37517 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:31 am to
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I hate this feature. The absolute roughest time on any mechanical device is the starting and stopping of work. It humming along at idle is pittance in terms of wear and tear.
So do I. I grew up driving 70's and 80's American cars. My car shutting off at an intersection will never not freak me out.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62559 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:39 am to
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I am not necessarily in favor of this, but it's also how you get innovation that will push the boundaries
If all we need is government declaration why stop at 52mpg? Why not wave teh wand and say 100mpg? 200mpg?

I don't remember the government mandating someone invent an iPhone.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24620 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:42 am to
I am more interested in hydrogen than electricity at this point.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
56182 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:44 am to
52mpg for my f150? Haha
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216133 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:45 am to
You are an idiot.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141444 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:46 am to
I bought a truck yesterday that gets 17.

Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29473 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:46 am to
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Also, how much gas does it actually save?


Most vehicles have a burn rate of under 1 gallon per hour at idle.

So if you figure your average stop light lasts two minutes. It saves about 4 oz of fuel on the worst offenders. On paper.

On a small 4 cylinder... Under an oz.
Posted by bbarras85
Member since Jul 2021
2324 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:50 am to
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52mpg for my f150? Haha


My F-150 with stock tires averaged 20 mpg the last time I went to my parents house in Tennessee. I have since put 34" tires on it and it dropped to around 14 around town. 5.0L
horrific. But I didn't by a pick up truck for gas mileage.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Faulkner County
Member since Jun 2009
15416 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 12:01 pm to
If everyone drove 100 mph, we’d actually all be making gas instead of consuming it.
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