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re: Edwin W. Edwards puts himself in hospice care, calls it 'a matter of convenient care'

Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:06 pm to
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
20613 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:06 pm to
If I still had my father's files covering his years as an oil & gas lease broker, I could, with some work, find a whole LOT of unhappy people EWE screwed out of their mineral rights. I promise you, from the stories my father told me, there are a whole lot of folks who don't consider him a decent guy. This has nothing to to with Huey or Jindal. This part of this thread is about you calling him a good, decent guy. If your grandpa was C.R. that explains a lot & I mean no offense to him. There are many good folks in the Crowley area that have always felt like the wrong Edwards was shot.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:15 pm to
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Don’t blame EE for Louisiana’s issues or political corruption, those issues predate him and continued after him or have you forgotten about characters like Huey Long and Bobby Jindel


Bobby Jindal (resume be damned) didn't have the mental acuity to steal a pack of gum. Call him an embarrassing putz, but "crook" misses the mark. That dude is basically Ned Flanders' on-the-spectrum little brother.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:24 pm to
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He Graduated HS with my Grandpa, they stayed friends until my grandpa died.


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My grandpa was his Commissioner of Administration.


Your grandpa was just as big a thieving crook as Edwin was just by virtue of association with him.

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They built prisons and infrastructure around small towns, giving them jobs that nobody ever mentions.


Drug lords and their cartels in south America do the same thing for the poors there. Doesn't make them any less guilty of being evil monsters that kill, rape, poison and pillage innocent communities.

It's called buying silence and sympathy.

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He gets an undeserved bad rep.


Actually, it's completely and totally well deserved. If anything, it's more lenient than I would have it.

Edwin Edwards is the 2nd worst Governor in Louisiana history behind Huey Long.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
46192 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:30 pm to
Jindal was the worse pos gov in my lifetime and he will end up costing people 100 times what EE ever did. Long stole millions from my family and was total pos and glad to this day Dr Weiss shot him. He was stealing from everyone.

Don’t feel bad though we have a well known alcoholic lesbian Governor in bama, and she is easily the best one since I lived here, but since 3 out of last four have been indicted or left for fear of indictment and they one that didn’t get indicted was of the main subject of ATPB and the biggest pos crook of the all.

I am not suggesting EE wasn’t a crook, and he did hurt some good friends of mine on some of the casino bullshite, but I am suggesting by Louisiana standards wasn’t that bad, but again Louisiana is damn near a banana republic.

I have a very wealthy friend here that tried to expand a business to let’s say New Orleans area from Bama. He told me a little black kid on a bicycle told him weeks into it told him “boss man said 5k if you want a business license” He thought it was totally bullshite so he ignored him until he got turned down for simple business license. Then kid showed up said boss man says 10k now. He was hit up like this constantly so just abandoned the location and the dozens of direct jobs and hundreds of indirect. That was way after EE was gone.

My relatives in New Orleans tell similar stories. This is obviously the way it is in many Louisiana parishes. Business get tired of bullshite like that.

EE was nothing compared to the corruption of Long, Perez and his henchmen. EE never killed anyone either.

Let me honest, political corruption, is as much a Louisiana tradition as gator hunting, jumbo and good music. I bought my first politicians when I was still in college. They were ridiculously cheap.

What I said and I stand by is that he is a “good guy”, you would like if you meet. You can be. Mafia member and still be a “good guy” to me. I didn’t say a good person in all regards. Just a “good guy”.

And yes Jindal was a tool, but he got played like a violin and because of him and he desire to be a tax cutter so he could pursue higher national office, Louisiana is ducked. Tax cuts are great when you pay for them or afford them.

This post was edited on 7/6/21 at 10:52 pm
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
12481 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:32 pm to
I used to think Edwards was bad, but compared to the modern left, he's just a crook.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:36 pm to
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He is really a decent guy. Almost anyone would like him if they meet him.


You're confusing personal charisma and a salesman's personality for "decent guy".

Anyone can be a likable guy in public. It's what they do when no one's watching or at least behind closed doors amongst trusted associates that really reveals the content of their character.

And my friend, Edwin's character was and still is downright rotten.

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Don’t blame EE for Louisiana’s issues or political corruption


Actually Edwin's state constitution, the one he was very intimately and personally involved in writing is the source of a lot dysfunction in our state government. It's a document that enables JBE to continue to abuse his position and bully politicians throughout the state to do his bidding.

That document is Edwin's baby and its the bane of Louisiana's existence. It's a shitshow that's amended year after year.

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have you forgotten about characters like Huey Long


Edwin modeled his Governorship after Huey Long. They are two peas in a pod and are responsible for the institutionalization of corruption, grift, self dealing, and anti-business mindset that permeates throughout Louisiana.

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Bobby Jindel




Jindal was a run of the mill political hack that was only focused on the national stage and in his 2nd term, couldn't care less about governing Louisiana. He was a wonk with no political instincts that was completely in over his head.

But that doesn't mean he was a thief and a crook that abused his position as Governor like Edwin did.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:40 pm to
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Jindal was the worse pos gov in my lifetime


Jindal was a bad Governor by virtue of being an absentee Governor that was not interested in running this state.

It was about what Jindal didn't do and failed to do, not what he actually did.

That alone makes him mild compared to piece of shite Edwin Edwards.

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he will end up costing people 100 times what EE ever did.


Again, no matter how many times you say this, it's not going to be true.

Jindal is not responsible for the absurd and disaster of a state constitution we have today and the institutionalized culture of corruption we have today. That's Edwin's baby.
Posted by Deplorable Duke
Lousyana
Member since Nov 2016
2619 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:46 pm to
Piyush Jindal
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 10:46 pm to
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This part of this thread is about you calling him a good, decent guy. If your grandpa was C.R. that explains a lot & I mean no offense to him.


These people singing praises to Edwin Edwards and voting for John Bel Edwards are the same people that are wondering why Louisiana is one of the worst, most corrupt and most poorly run states in the country.

They are the same people that give us this spectacle of corruption. Edwin Edwards and his political twin, John Bel Edwards with a guest appearance of John Alario, an EE disciple.



Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
20613 posts
Posted on 7/6/21 at 11:37 pm to
Stand by your "relative" all you want. But I'd guess it's safe to say he never stole mineral rights from you, or your family, 1000's of dollars that would have lifted you out of poverty. What you describe as his being a good guy, most who are unbiased & know him well describe as being an uber con man with only Huey as his peer.He was the original Slick Willy long before Clinton came around. But that you admit to buying politicians, and brag about it, pretty much seals it as to what side of the corruption fence you sit on. Add the fact that your grandpa was convicted of taking bribes from Carlos Marcello, Mr. La. Mafioso himself, & spent time in a Federal pen..............yea, it was overturned, but as you put it, those "inside details" tells the true story there.
Posted by Dlab2013
Pineville, Luzianna
Member since Jun 2013
9219 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 9:28 pm to
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You grandpa was “C R


R L. Would have ran and won if he wanted it. Still had enough clout in retirement to shut down Jindals clown show.

Named a prison after him for all the State jobs he saved making Jindal look like the fool he was/is.

Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 10:33 pm to
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EE never killed anyone either.


He facilitated getting pardons for several people serving time for murder, of course money changed hands to make it happen, one of them killed another person after being released
Posted by 308
the backwoods of Mississippi
Member since Sep 2020
2655 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:06 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/7/21 at 11:09 pm
Posted by 308
the backwoods of Mississippi
Member since Sep 2020
2655 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:17 pm to
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He gets an undeserved bad rep. Nobody knows the inside details of what went down when he went to prison.


Care to elaborate on the details?
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
7755 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:50 pm to
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Somebody has to know where all that bribe money has sat for all these years. Yeah. He was killed on the steps of the Caddo Parish courthouse.

Who?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 11:54 pm to
Clyde Vidrine. He was a bodyguard and bagman for Edwards. If you can find it, the book you're looking for is "Just Takin' Orders". It was Vidrine's side of the story about what went on when he worked for ole' Fast Eddie.
This post was edited on 7/7/21 at 11:57 pm
Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
4832 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 12:28 am to
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1000's of dollars that would have lifted you out of poverty


Too bad “1000’s” of dollars wouldn’t lift you out of illiteracy.
Posted by DallasTiger
THE Capital City
Member since Jan 2004
4422 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 1:26 am to
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care'
"Nearly impossible"? EWE was incredibly intelligent, matching his level of corruption, and over the yrs he developed foolproof ways to make money off of State business. One small example, never provable: a good friend ran a court reporting business & did a lot of work for the State's attys. In case after case after case, a suit against the State would drag on & on, for yrs, no progress. Finally, the State's Atty General's Office would, out of the blue, re-assign the case to an outside law firm. A politically law firm. Bam! The case would wake up, legal fees after legal fees generated by this out side firm. Case would settle, and guess who got an under the table part of the settlement? This amount times the 1000's of suits against the State under EWE. If there was a State nickle involved somewhere, EWE got his share.


100 percent true.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
16714 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 4:19 am to
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Says volumes for the electorate in Louisiana.


His initials say it all: EWE. He charmed the female sheep back in the day and carried their vote.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
33125 posts
Posted on 7/8/21 at 6:49 am to
Actually he shook down private business entities like Park in the 70's and DeBartolo in the 90's over casinos. He pretty much kept his hands off of the taxpayers money. Maybe got some kickbacks over contracts, but that is standard stuff. He liked to see how much you wanted to do business.
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