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re: EDIT: Should employees be allowed unpaid leave if their work is covered?
Posted on 3/11/16 at 7:56 am to greygoose
Posted on 3/11/16 at 7:56 am to greygoose
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Nope, but I do live in the real world.
Must be a different real world than the one I live in with comments like this :
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My point is, maybe you shouldn't be looking to change jobs, if you've got immediate plans.
That's just a ridiculous comment.
ETA: And let's not even get started with your comment about not hiring a woman because she's pregnant. Some of y'all make it way too easy to see you aren't actually responsible for hiring people.
This post was edited on 3/11/16 at 8:17 am
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Posted on 3/11/16 at 7:56 am to Panny Crickets
The way I look at it is if I have 40 hrs of vacations banked and ready to use at my current job the company that wants me is going to have to carry that over from the day I start. If not there are many different forms of compensation that can make up for it but the total package is going to have to be good enough for me to make the move.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 7:57 am to dualed
The goal in life is to be able to dictate perks like that. If you accept a job that has a waiting period, that's on you. With that said, hopefully when the baby boomers get out of management, companies will understand productivity improves with more time away from work. As it is now, it's a "if I've got to be here, so do they" type mentality. If you complete your required work, you should be able to leave.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 7:59 am to greygoose
Same schools, same transcripts, same resume, same personality?
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:00 am to dualed
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Do you feel employees should be entitled to vacation prior to earning it?
No.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:01 am to MadDoggyStyle
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The original discussion was concerning earning vacation days before a person can actually use them. New hires haven't proven themselves but a person that you have hired away from a competitor is in a different class altogether. It's really not that hard to understand. For that matter, do you ask for your pay up front before working for a week?
It's good to have contempt for your employees.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:02 am to TexasTiger1984
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I wouldn't take a job where I didn't get at least 3 weeks starting on day one
Probably already stated but, If it's not first job out of college, negotiate 3 weeks minimum and tell bossperson you have something planned in first year.
Usually not an issue.Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:07 am to MadDoggyStyle
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At first I thought it was a sarcasm, but now I'm sure this might be the dumbest post I've ever read here, and that's saying a lot.
You've gone on record calling your new employees "mouth breathers". You're clearly a shitty boss.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:09 am to OMLandshark
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If you are over the age of 25 and have worked at multiple places where they don't offer you time off over a year, then you are a fool, a sucker, and someone with no discernible skills. Their competition should offer these things, and anyone with half a brain will go to those companies every single time. This speaks very poorly for yourself as an employee that you can't negotiate time off.
Maybe I really enjoy my job, you lazy bum.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:11 am to greygoose
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Let's say you are hiring for a position. You have two equally qualified applicants. One states during the interview, that they have a vacation planned within the next few months. Who do you think is going to get the job?
"How dare you get married and have a life outside of work!"
Do you realize how fricking delusional you sound?
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Same scenario, but one is an obviously, 6 months pregnant woman.......
You do know that that is highly illegal, right?
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:13 am to MadDoggyStyle
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At first I thought it was a sarcasm, but now I'm sure this might be the dumbest post I've ever read here, and that's saying a lot.
Nope. You sound like a slave-driver that doesn't value the work your employees do or care that people actually work to live, not live to work.
You can go steal all the better employees you want from the competition, but at the end of the day that doesn't make you a great manager.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:15 am to greygoose
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Nope, but I do live in the real world.
How about you go tell human resources to not send pregnant women your way and see if that doesn't get you canned? That's a highly firable offense and can get your company sued to an oblivion if you don't hire a person simply because they're pregnant.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:15 am to dualed
Not entitled, but employers will not get or retain the best if they don't provide vacation
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:17 am to ThatMakesSense
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Maybe I really enjoy my job, you lazy bum.
Or you're really stupid and clearly have nothing going on in your life.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:17 am to dualed
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A lot of companies make you wait a year before earning vacation
I guess it depends on several things, such as what line of work, what type of company, if you're salaried, contractor, etc.
For my line of work and my particular position, no, I would not join a company that's very stingy with vacation. It tells me they are not willing to work with their employees and do not promote a work/life balance. What if you get sick? Need an operation? I would be very concerned the company would make some sort of excuse to "lay you off". That's not a company I want to be a part of.
And yes, somewhere in the interview process a potential employee should ask about vacation, personal days, etc. It's part of the package.
We interview people all the time and if someone doesn't ask about salary, vacation, etc., I kind of wonder about them (the opposite of what some people in this thread are saying).
This post was edited on 3/11/16 at 8:21 am
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:18 am to dualed
YES.
I encourage people being offered professional positions to actually negotiate this aspect of their hiring, as well as other things.
I was sought for the position I currently hold, so I made sure I beefed up the benefits along with the salary I would accept.
A lot of places are willing to concede items like more vacation time and/or stock options in lieu of bumping salary that they are budgeted for.
I encourage people being offered professional positions to actually negotiate this aspect of their hiring, as well as other things.
I was sought for the position I currently hold, so I made sure I beefed up the benefits along with the salary I would accept.
A lot of places are willing to concede items like more vacation time and/or stock options in lieu of bumping salary that they are budgeted for.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:21 am to dualed
quote:I feel this isn't something that can be applied to everyone. People at different stages in their careers can get/expect different things.
Should people be entitled to vacation prior to that?
-Just out of college and hungry to make a name for yourself? frick no. The odds are that you won't get anything like that and anyone who expects more in that situation might be a tad delusional.
-Been in a certain industry for a while, have made a name for yourself, and competitors/headhunters are always contacting you for opportunities? frick yes. You can negotiate a frickton into your agreement and vacation pay is not usually the nut that will lure you away because that is a given. Salary, stocks, signing bonus, paying COBRA, vacation pay, 401k matching...and several other things but these are just off the top of my head.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:23 am to ThatMakesSense
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Maybe I really enjoy my job, you lazy bum.
Then by all means, work 18 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. But don't plan to have good health when you get older.
By the way, I've never heard anyone on their deathbed say "I wish I could have worked more", or "I wish I could have made more money".
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:28 am to cyogi
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Then by all means, work 18 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. But don't plan to have good health when you get older.
Thanks for letting me have Leap Day off, cyogi.
Why would my health be affected by my enjoyable work schedule? I don't stress at work, nor do I dread coming into work. I spend my limited off time with the people I enjoy doing things that make me happy.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:28 am to OMLandshark
The company I started out at no "vacation time" first year but i talked to them and worked a couple weekends leading up to taking 4 days off. Now, with the same company, I basically get to set my own hours and can pretty much take off for vacation as much as I want as long as I don't put them in a bind with last minute notice.
No way I would hire an entry level position and let them take off on a week long vacation within six months of starting.
No way I would hire an entry level position and let them take off on a week long vacation within six months of starting.
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