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re: EDIT: Should employees be allowed unpaid leave if their work is covered?
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:30 am to ChunkyLover54
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:30 am to ChunkyLover54
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Not entitled, but employers will not get or retain the best if they don't provide vacation
This thread makes me appreciate all of the jobs I've had. I wouldn't take a job if I didn't have vacation year 1.
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Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:30 am to Sneaky__Sally
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No way I would hire an entry level position and let them take off on a week long vacation within six months of starting.
Don't be jealous.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:32 am to htownjeep
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-Just out of college and hungry to make a name for yourself? frick no
I had 3 weeks straight out of college, and the competitors that offered me had the same.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:32 am to ThatMakesSense
why would I be jealous?
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:34 am to Phat Phil
quote:I worked for Viacom/MTV for a while and their benefits were unreal. 8 weeks 100% paid Paternity leave, and 13 weeks 100% paid Maternity, with the second 13 weeks being 90% paid.
USA is the only developed nation without paid maternity leave. We love making our employers richer by working like robots. 'Merica
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:35 am to htownjeep
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-Just out of college and hungry to make a name for yourself? frick no. The odds are that you won't get anything like that and anyone who expects more in that situation might be a tad delusional.
Well, I've interviewed for 40 plus jobs since graduating college, and I have yet to interview with a company that didn't allow me to have vacation my first year. I think I've just been lucky enough to interview with managers who don't treat their employees like shite and try to hardball them. They also understand that happy employees are productive employees, and not allowing them to take off for a year is going to piss them off greatly. These said employees will get the hell out of there when the first comparable offer comes their way that has time off as an option.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:36 am to dualed
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I'm in the party that says if things can go as smoothly without you as they do with you, who gives a frick?
Then you aren't really that much of an asset are you?
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:36 am to FlagLake
I was thinking the exact same thing. Its not a great indication of job security when you can leave and nobody misses a beat.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:37 am to OMLandshark
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Well, I've interviewed for 40 plus jobs since graduating college
So whats the deal? why haven't you taken one or why do you keep interviewing?
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:38 am to ThatMakesSense
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Thanks for letting me have Leap Day off, cyogi.
You're welcome!
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Why would my health be affected by my enjoyable work schedule? I don't stress at work
Then our careers are quite different. There's no way I'd do what I do and have no vacation. Even out of college I was offered minimum 2 weeks, and many times 3 weeks to start.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:39 am to PrivatePublic
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I asked my boss of one of my first jobs about unpaid leave. He said that if there was ever a day where they managed without me to not even bother coming back.
I've never asked about or taken unpaid leave since.
Your boss was trying to sound like a hardass, but in reality he's a complete dumbass.
So what happens if someone is sick or in the hospital for a few days? The business crumbles? Sounds like he's done a bang-up job managing it...
This post was edited on 3/11/16 at 8:41 am
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:39 am to FlagLake
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Then you aren't really that much of an asset are you?
I can go on vacation with my cell and computer and still keep up with my job. Most people with "unlimited" vacation are expected to do that.
It's been a long time since i've been totally disconnected from work for more than a day or so
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:41 am to PetreauxCat
quote:We're not talking about YOU. We're talking about generalities here. Every person starting out in their career shouldn't expect it. Certain lines of work, yes...some areas, no.
I had 3 weeks straight out of college, and the competitors that offered me had the same.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:42 am to dualed
When I started with my company, I had 40 hours of PTO starting day one, then the next year I had 80 Hours. Year three I got 120 hours and this year I have 160 hours. PTO banks suck because it is your vacation and sick time all rolled into one, but I typically never call out so it does not really effect me. If I need a day off here and there my boss tells me to work from home and not to use my PTO and by work from home, I basically just answer the phone if it rings. We put in a lot of overtime away from home so he looks out for me. I remember my first year, I did not take any of my PTO, and right before Christmas he walked in and just told me take the week off and not to come back until after the new year and not to worry about using PTO and I would be paid as if I was in the office.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:43 am to FlagLake
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Then you aren't really that much of an asset are you?
That's so stupid. If a company is one person away from falling apart at any monument they aren't in a good position.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:44 am to Dire Wolf
And if you can bolt out without anybody having to scramble and pick up the slack you aren't really in a good position.
This post was edited on 3/11/16 at 8:45 am
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:45 am to ThatMakesSense
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Why would my health be affected by my enjoyable work schedule? I don't stress at work, nor do I dread coming into work. I spend my limited off time with the people I enjoy doing things that make me happy.
This post further points in the direction that you are stupid and are in a very menial job. Any job that requires skill will have some sort of stress attached to it and really require you take some time off in order to collect your thoughts and order your priorities.
And the fact that you say "limited" as part of your job description is a pretty terrible thing to say. Why don't you have a word with your manager to make your job less limited and provide more freedom to do the job as you see fit?
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:46 am to yellowfin
There is nothing quite like sitting at the beach condo, working on the laptop with a beer in hand.
I never mind working for a few hours/day while on vacation.
When you're that important, you can't 100% disconnect
I never mind working for a few hours/day while on vacation.
When you're that important, you can't 100% disconnect
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:46 am to slinger1317
quote:That isn't close to an appropriate comparison. Not earning vacation until after year one is more akin to not getting paid anything until after you've worked there a year.
Why doesn't the employer just pay you a years salary in your first day also?
Vacation time is earned, just like salary, bonuses, commission, etc.
Posted on 3/11/16 at 8:49 am to Perrydawg
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When I started with my company, I had 40 hours of PTO starting day one, then the next year I had 80 Hours. Year three I got 120 hours and this year I have 160 hours. PTO banks suck because it is your vacation and sick time all rolled into one, but I typically never call out so it does not really effect me. If I need a day off here and there my boss tells me to work from home and not to use my PTO and by work from home, I basically just answer the phone if it rings. We put in a lot of overtime away from home so he looks out for me. I remember my first year, I did not take any of my PTO, and right before Christmas he walked in and just told me take the week off and not to come back until after the new year and not to worry about using PTO and I would be paid as if I was in the office.
You sound like a good employee that he respects and appreciates, and not some whiny kid that is always asking for more.
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