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re: Early Moderna vaccine recipients TWICE as likely to get a breakthrough infection
Posted on 9/16/21 at 8:41 pm to RobbBobb
Posted on 9/16/21 at 8:41 pm to RobbBobb
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My point is you cant read.
Wait a sec...it was you who said this
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Wait until they find out the 3rd booster shot is only good for about 12 days
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Researchers in Israel reported Wednesday that a third dose of the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine can prevent both infections and severe illness in adults older than 60 for at least 12 days
Sees "at least", interprets it as "only". Either you're a dumbass or you're attempting to be intentionally misleading. Likely some of A and some of B.
Delta variant, you say? How's this work for you?
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Delta variant vaccinated vs. unvaccinated: This new CDC chart shows how well COVID-19 vaccines work
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If you are still unclear on how well vaccinations work against COVID-19 since delta became the predominant variant, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has put out a new series of data and charts showing just how well the vaccines work against preventing infection, hospitalization, and deaths
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To compile the charts, the CDC looked at data from 13 U.S. jurisdictions between the dates of April 4 and July 17, 2021. Researchers tabulated the number of infections, hospitalizations, and deaths among the not fully vaccinated and the vaccinated—and the results are compelling indeed. The CDC’s data shows that not fully vaccinated people are over 10 times more likely to be hospitalized from COVID-19 and over 10 times more likely to die from it. Not fully vaccinated people are also five times more likely to catch COVID-19 than vaccinated people.
LINK
You need to loosen that tinfoil hat, my man. It's cutting off oxygen to your brain.
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Posted on 9/16/21 at 9:21 pm to High C
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It sounds really positive.
We can't have any of that here.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 9:38 pm to UltimaParadox
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Thought we were finally past these clickbait covid threads
You though anti-vaxers would be able to stop talking about the vaccine? It basically defines their lives now.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 9:53 pm to Damone
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You though anti-vaxers would be able to stop talking about the vaccine? It basically defines their lives now.
They’re like lesbians who talk about cock all the time.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 9:54 pm to stout
There needs to be a KStout13 anti-vaxx board
Posted on 9/16/21 at 10:34 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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quote: people will be willing to try anything for any disease and even more so with Wuhan
That's the point. The "scamdemic, vaccines are a sham" people are having the "I fricked up, Facebook was wrong" moment. It's sad for sure, but hard for me to feel sorry for them
That wasn’t point. With Wuhan vents haven’t had great outcomes and sometimes used too aggressively in past. At that point experimental and risky treatments start to get looked at harder by all sides including things that aren’t actually treatments like vaccines. It’s the same with other diseases. Seeking options at that point doesn’t always mean they think they fricked up.
Vaccinated have died from Wuhan as well. They even might have asked if another dosage would help. They also might have thought they messed up getting vaccine especially before regular approval or if one still not approved yet. Who knows. I do know I could not be an arse who has no empathy for people in those situations at those particular moments. If infected in July or since vaccinated probably infected them.
Also your friend of a friend resident seems like an arse if real and really shared patient conversations.
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Posted on 9/16/21 at 10:50 pm to Damone
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You though anti-vaxers would be able to stop talking about the vaccine? It basically defines their lives now.
Really? People who don't want the shot merely want to be left alone. It's the statists who constantly have to sell the severity of the "pandemic" and the efficacy of the shot. Do you think during the Black Plague European kings or the pope had to gin up a PR campaign to convince their subjects the Plague was dangerous? Why do we have a non-stop propaganda effort on this one? Why do Big Tech, the feds and the media ban any discussion that doesn't echo the party line? Has there ever been such a concerted effort to withhold information from the American people in peacetime before? Why now?
And how many people have died because alternative treatments that have ultimately been proven to be effective were restricted/banned/withheld?
None of that causes you to look at all this with a skeptical eye?
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:04 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Why do Big Tech, the feds and the media ban any discussion that doesn't echo the party line? Has there ever been such a concerted effort to withhold information from the American people in peacetime before? Why now?
There’s such thing as a healthy amount of skepticism . You sir seem to have surpassed that limit.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:09 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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Chitown_Badger
Good God, you're an ignorant bitch. I noticed you completely ignored this quote from the Israelis:
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experts said, and does not indicate long-term benefit.
So whether you parse the terms "at least" to "only", the conclusion is that boosters do not indicate long-term benefits. I mean you do understand its the exact same formulation from the precious 2 shots, right? That formula did little to ward off CoVID.?
Then you re-post the same damn study based on old data. And like a dumbass you included the July 17th cut-off date, again. No one knew what Delta was on July 17th. In fact, your senile president said this just 13 days before that cut-off date:
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“This year, the 4th of July is a day of special celebration,” Biden said in remarks from the South Lawn of the White House, “for we are emerging from the darkness of … a year of pandemic and isolation, a year of pain, fear and heartbreaking loss.
The country thought that we had gotten the best of CoVID. And for you to act like that crappy old data is still correct is delusional.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:12 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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My friends boyfriend is a resident at a hospital here in Chicago and he said sometimes people will ask if they can get the vaccine right before getting put on a vent. But hey, roll the dice if you want
I can confirm this. I was the ventilator.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:15 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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The fact that some of you don't think there's a benefit to the vaccines in preventing death and severe disease despite gobs of evidence is a case study in delusion.
I already have a .00014 chance of dying, three shots brings it down a bit but is not necessary.
That’s the point you fricking lunatics don’t get.
Plus we add like 10k people every hour to this planet. Im not trying to live to 90 just to die of hunger.
This post was edited on 9/16/21 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 9/16/21 at 11:29 pm to Chucktown_Badger
Shut up, cuck
Posted on 9/17/21 at 6:36 am to stout
This is the 20th anti vaxx thread youve started this year.
Time to take a break from the internet son.
Time to take a break from the internet son.
Posted on 9/17/21 at 6:42 am to stout
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It's interesting that all of the vaccines are pushing boosters every 6 months. Makes you wonder if it was designed that way for revenue purposes sort of like planned obsolescence in consumer products.
Like a biomedical iPhone.
Posted on 9/17/21 at 8:05 am to stout
I dont think anyone can really dispute this. Despite the futurr potential i think the current batch of mrna vaccines are a disappointment and you'll need either perpetual boosters or novavax.
Posted on 9/17/21 at 8:29 am to MFn GIMP
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I was the ventilator
Set higher goals.
Posted on 9/17/21 at 8:43 am to dallastigers
So you just choose to ignore the data. Got it. If you have other data that shows vaccinated people having worse outcomes than unvaccinated people, with the delta strain or otherwise, I'd love to see it.
Also, the length of efficacy for the vaccines is measured in real time, that's why they use the term "at least".
Be better.
ETA: he's not "my president". I can't stand him. These are Trump's vaccines. Do you hate trump?
Also, the length of efficacy for the vaccines is measured in real time, that's why they use the term "at least".
Be better.
ETA: he's not "my president". I can't stand him. These are Trump's vaccines. Do you hate trump?
This post was edited on 9/17/21 at 8:45 am
Posted on 9/17/21 at 8:45 am to High C
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From an insured consumer point of view, a vaccine booster is costing me nothing
the fact that there are people who think the government gives you anything for “free” is hilarious. It costs you something buddyPosted on 9/17/21 at 8:47 am to stout
You mean when Moderna stock prices fell after research came out that boosters weren't necessary, but then another study came out 2 days later that said boosters were necessary, and prices went back up? No way right?
Posted on 9/17/21 at 8:47 am to stout
My Moderna vaccinated wife tested positive yesterday. I got my 2nd Pfizer shot in July and I'm pretty sure I have it too.
Wasn't there a paper released recently that showed viral loads in unvaxed and Moderna vaxed were basically identical?
Wasn't there a paper released recently that showed viral loads in unvaxed and Moderna vaxed were basically identical?
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