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stout
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Early Moderna vaccine recipients TWICE as likely to get a breakthrough infection
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New data from Moderna found 88 breakthrough cases of COVID-19 of those fully vaccinated between December 2020 and March 2021

Comparatively, there 162 breakthrough cases among those vaccinated between July 2020 and December 2020 during clinical trials

Moderna says these data suggest fully vaccinated people should receive booster shot six to eight months later

Early data showed a third dose increased neutralizing antibody levels increased by as much as 15-fold after one month


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Also,

Moderna says analysis shows COVID vaccine immunity may wane
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High C
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re: Early Moderna vaccine recipients TWICE as likely to get a breakthrough infection
I don’t like the term “breakthrough” cases. It sounds really positive.


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re: Early Moderna vaccine recipients TWICE as likely to get a breakthrough infection
I’d rather not be a guinea pig.


stout
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re: Early Moderna vaccine recipients TWICE as likely to get a breakthrough infection
It's interesting that all of the vaccines are pushing boosters every 6 months. Makes you wonder if it was designed that way for revenue purposes sort of like planned obsolescence in consumer products.


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re: Early Moderna vaccine recipients TWICE as likely to get a breakthrough infection
Mandating mediocrity seems totally reasonable. Carry on.


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High C
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Makes you wonder if it was designed that way for revenue purposes sort of like planned obsolescence in consumer products.


From an insured consumer point of view, a vaccine booster is costing me nothing. Having to shell out $1000+ for a new smartphone every few years for that reason is infuriating.


LSUsmartass
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re: Early Moderna vaccine recipients TWICE as likely to get a breakthrough infection
That can't be accurate


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Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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re: Early Moderna vaccine recipients TWICE as likely to get a breakthrough infection
Three jabs to feed your family


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AthensRattler
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re: Early Moderna vaccine recipients TWICE as likely to get a breakthrough infection
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It's interesting that all of the vaccines are pushing boosters every 6 months. Makes you wonder if it was designed that way for revenue purposes sort of like planned obsolescence in consumer products.


There’s a concept in vaccinology, duration of immunity. There wasn’t time to test in this case.

Before someone cites the lack of time also not quelling their safety concerns, the ADME and PK/PD studies are pretty predictive of safety issues.

I develop vaccines for a living, but my focus is narrow (formulation ie mostly stability and safety). While tempted to start an AMA, I don’t have the time or patience. I do respect everyone’s right to make their own decision and the rights of employers to mandate what they see fit.


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re: Early Moderna vaccine recipients TWICE as likely to get a breakthrough infection
So people are still trying to push the "COVID vaccines don't work" line?

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From 4 April to 20 June unvaccinated people died from covid-19 at 16.6 times the rate among the fully vaccinated (95% confidence interval 13.5 to 20.4). Between 20 June and 17 July that rate fell to 11.3 (9.1 to 13.9). Before 20 June admissions of unvaccinated people with covid-19 to hospital were running at 13.3 (11.3 to 15.6) times the rate among the vaccinated, but this had fallen to 10.4 (8.1 to 13.3) after that date.


ETA: It does appear the rates are coming down...you're only 11x more likely to die if unvaccinated and 10x more likely to be hospitalized.

My friends boyfriend is a resident at a hospital here in Chicago and he said sometimes people will ask if they can get the vaccine right before getting put on a vent. But hey, roll the dice if you want

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Chitown_Badger
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re: Early Moderna vaccine recipients TWICE as likely to get a breakthrough infection
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Early Moderna vaccine recipients TWICE as likely to get a breakthrough infection


Also, twice as likely as those who were vaccinated later. Now compare the rates to unvaccinated people.


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re: Early Moderna vaccine recipients TWICE as likely to get a breakthrough infection
Many if not most of the early vaccine recipients were nursing home patients, elderly, and others at high risk. Not surprised they would be more susceptible to breakthrough cases.

I saw another article about a study that said Modena was best of all three at preventing breakthroughs that required medical attention.


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re: Early Moderna vaccine recipients TWICE as likely to get a breakthrough infection
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My friends boyfriend is a resident at a hospital here in Chicago and he said sometimes people will ask if they can get the vaccine right before getting put on a vent.


It amazes me people so sick they can’t breathe on their own are begging for a shot right before they are intubated

I hope your friends boyfriend was as kind as the Alabama Dr who held her patients hands as she told them no
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re: Early Moderna vaccine recipients TWICE as likely to get a breakthrough infection
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It's interesting that all of the vaccines are pushing boosters every 6 months. Makes you wonder if it was designed that way for revenue purposes sort of like planned obsolescence in consumer products.


Imo, the real answer is simpler.

We could have had a covid 18, covid 17, covid 16, and so on if it was advantageous for the powers that be, but it usually isn't smart to scare tf out of something that has a low fatality rate and cannot be stopped.

Why are the death rates of things like the flu a little off during covid? Because covid 12, covid 11, covid 10.5, and covid 10 had those numbers "normal."


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re: Early Moderna vaccine recipients TWICE as likely to get a breakthrough infection
Could you be anymore obsessed?


gadknot
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re: Early Moderna vaccine recipients TWICE as likely to get a breakthrough infection
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We could have had a covid 18, covid 17, covid 16, and so on if it was advantageous for the powers that be, but it usually isn't smart to scare tf out of something that has a low fatality rate and cannot be stopped.

Why are the death rates of things like the flu a little off during covid? Because covid 12, covid 11, covid 10.5, and covid 10 had those numbers "normal."

W
T
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UltimaParadox
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re: Early Moderna vaccine recipients TWICE as likely to get a breakthrough infection
Thought we were finally past these clickbait covid threads


TSLG
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re: Early Moderna vaccine recipients TWICE as likely to get a breakthrough infection
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Could you be anymore obsessed?


This shite is being used by our politicians to rule like they're kings and emperors.

You better get obsessed before you change from being the cucked - watching your world get fricked - to the fricked.


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re: Early Moderna vaccine recipients TWICE as likely to get a breakthrough infection
These companies want boosters required. It’s better for them. Where’s the independent studies? Do they (or can they) exist?


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