re: Dr. Stephanie Cave/Cypress Integrative Medicine

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Is she a scientilogist? There are a couple MDs in Atlanta that do this and their offices have E.R. Hubard quotes up everywhere

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I'll immediately turn around and walk out.

Yes deficiencies SHOULD show up in bloodwork.

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Mr. Wayne

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One night he had a 104 fever and was given an Augmentin shot. 15 minutes later he had what we think is a seizure, shaking followed by screaming then completely out of it, but were told by the hospital it was just a normal reaction. That was the last night he spoke for a good 2 years

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Many on TD and around the U.S. think that the anti-vaccine crowd is insane. However, if you do one search on google relative to the above description of your son's reaction to this shot you will find countless similar stories from devastated parents all over this country. All associated with vaccines and all with the same screaming, convulsing and then passing out. Then a kid who was speaking normally and adding new words on a weekly basis starts to lose words and then many times stops speaking all together for years.

Then parents are told by doctors that this is a "normal" reaction. I find it hard to believe that if it happened to their child that they would still find it normal.

My point is, there sure are a LOT of coincidences surrounding adverse reactions and vaccines. At what point do they stop being "normal" and coincidences.

Remember, the schedule of vaccines that people in their 30's took as kids in the mid-1980's was waaay shorter than the long cocktail list of vaccines that are now suggested for children.

I didn't know a single kid on the autism spectrum when I was kid but I could name you 10-15 now. Maybe just maybe we as as society should re-visit exactly what is in these vaccines and if such a lengthy list of recommended shots is necessary.

Maybe the truncated list of the 80's and earlier decades is a better fit. Maybe, spreading them out a tad is a good idea too.

My best wishes to you, your family and your son and I will say this... Do your own research and let your own common sense and reasoning decipher what is true.

From the looks of it, she is a quack. I would strongly recommend you avoid her.

First, she has some crappy book titled, "what your doctor may not tell you about vaccines."

That is a stone cold tip off she is a lost cause.

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This book encourages parents "...to be equal partners with doctors in deciding which vaccines their children should get and when they should get them."

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I hate to be mean here, but there were some very smart people who developed those vaccinations and those vaccination schedules. Much smarter than this loon and the thought that some random doctor and the parents should partner in deciding which and when their children should get vaccines is laughable.

I know that thought will not fly on this board, but the sad fact is it is the truth.

Further, she has information in this POS book that many of the non vaccine crowd typically talks about...

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Did you know many vaccines used today include ingredients such as mercury, formaldehyde, ethylene glycol (a main ingredient in antifreeze) and more

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Each and every one of these ridiculous claims are easily refuted by the facts. If interested I can certainly refute them but I won't.

Further the thought of spreading out the vaccinations are ridiculous. The number of antigens in all the vaccines together are like peeing in the ocean when compared to the number of antigens the child is exposed to by just living.

So on that aspect alone I know for a fact she is a total loser. The fact that she has integrative medicine in the title also is a tip off to avoid because she is a loon. At least she labels herself as such.

She praises chelation therapy...

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The word chelation is not in the vocabulary of most physicians. The few physicians who are treating these children are inundated with them in their practices. The good news is that they are responding well to the chelation treatment. The changes in neurological functioning are remarkable with each day of treatment.

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That is a direct quote from her. The facts of the matter are simply that chelation therapy is not at all helpful and in some cases is harmful.

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Mayo clinic, myself, and just about everyone knowledgeable on the subject says that it is useless.

I could go on and on about other things she has said. However at the end of the day, you will find one thing that she will do.

She will do lots of things on your child. These will all cost money. This is money that will go to her. These are things that have been extensively studied and have been found to not be helpful.

She will provide anecdotal evidence and say in her experience to support what she is doing. And she will continue to charge you for it.

She will say she is doing things that other doctors won't do or don't know to do. She is lying. Other doctors won't do them because they don't help.

Do you see a trend here? She will simply separate you from your money in the most disgusting fashion ever. She takes advantage of hope to take your money and does no benefit.

These are the lowest form of humans as far as I am concerned.

I am very sad for the situation that your son is in as we speak. While I am not an ASD expert or even at all knowledgeable on the topic, I can spot quacks from afar.

I can not say I know how you feel. Few here can. I wish I could help you. I wish I could help lots of people out there.

The only thing I can tell you is she is not the answer.

I hope this is helpful. I feel strongly about these dirtballs who take advantage of people when they are most vulnerable. I have seen it time and time again.

Rest assured that the best and the brightest are working on the issue and that when anything that can help is found, it will not be offered only by one doctor in a integrative medicine clinic in BR. In fact, when something is proven to be helpful, you will be able to get it from any hospital in the country.

I understand that I sound rather harsh on this quack, but what would you say about someone who peddles stuff that is not helpful and potentially harmful and is only around to take money from people who are extremely vulnerable?

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Many on TD and around the U.S. think that the anti-vaccine crowd is insane.

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There is a simple reason for this. They are. It has been proven again and again.

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However, if you do one search on google relative to the above description of your son's reaction to this shot you will find countless similar stories from devastated parents all over this country.

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There are hundreds of millions of babies. You will find stories of bad things happening following whatever you want. Association does not equal causation.

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My point is, there sure are a LOT of coincidences surrounding adverse reactions and vaccines

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That is because there are hundreds of millions of babies around the world.

Interesting that though exhaustively studied, there is absolutely no increased risk of autism when getting vaccinated.

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I didn't know a single kid on the autism spectrum when I was kid but I could name you 10-15 now

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back then they were called the strange kid if he was slightly autistic. If he was severely autistic, he was sent to a separate school.

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Maybe just maybe we as as society should re-visit exactly what is in these vaccines and if such a lengthy list of recommended shots is necessary.

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Been done countless times. Every crap objection these loons bring up has been refuted with hard science and facts.

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Do your own research and let your own common sense and reasoning decipher what is true.

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Let me give you a little insight here. Google is not a great way to get medical treatment.

Let me have Jimmy Fallon give you a bit of advice here...

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Wracking my brain about something I remember about this doctor. Had a home health patient that needed lab work and blood drawn at home had to be brought to her office. This is the only doctor that required blood be brought to their office. All other labs drawn in the home were delivered to the closest lab. This could be a red flag.

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I didnt know a single kid on the autism spectrum when I was a kid but I can name you 10-15 now

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When we were kids, some kids that were called brats, assholes or difficult are now considered to be "on the spectrum".


To address the OP, go with your gut. hopefully you and your wife will reach common ground. Godspeed and prayers to you and your family...

The initial consultation was 500 dollars in 2008. She ordered a battery of blood tests, then chelation therapy and expensive vitamins. Had to get everything from the compounding pharmacy. None of it is covered by insurance except for some of the blood tests.

Spent over 2 grand. Didn't improve anything.

What it did allow us to do was open our minds on nutrition. Result of it was that we found the SCD diet and he is now a perfectly normal 9 year old. We have to cook separate meals for the family but it is worth it.

Being that I teach special education, I have heard of her and it's not good. As teachers, we hear about doctors all the time. Usually, it's he or she is great go see them. This is not the case. She preys upon parents offering an alternative method to "treating" autism. The fact is nothing can tear or cure autism. There are documented cases where children switch to a gluten free diet and begin speaking. However, it has not been determined wether the new diet is the reason or the child just decided to start talking.
This woman offers false hope. Based on your OP, you already know this. Your wife is looking for something to grab onto, by SHE is feeling guilt or a lack of self worth be her child is autistic. This is extremely common.
My advice is to spend as much time as tall can with your child and get to know as much as you can about him. Accept him for who he is and do not try to make him what he is not. Love that child as much as you possibly can. Get involved with the Autism outreach groups. They have some wonderful programs for kids. Last, get you wife (and maybe yourself) some counseling. It's going to be a long road, but a happy one of you make it happy.

Last trust you instincts. If it is too good to be true it is. I've heard from other parents that have seen this woman that she says, it's getting better" and "give it time" a lot. Meaning, it's getting better be you are learning to deal with it.
Good luck and God bless

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Result of it was that we found the SCD diet and he is now a perfectly normal 9 year old

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I was just coming to post this.

It's anecdotal, but I know several people who swear by this for their kids that had autism.

A lot of these "new" diseases with undetermined causes have trouble being treated. I'm a big believer of changing the inputs such as food and seeing if the output changes. It doesn't hurt to try and it's not expensive - it just takes effort.

To the op - I feel for you. Good luck - leave no stone unturned and don't be afraid to experiment with some things that are obviously safe like specific carbohydrate diet(scd). I would treat the doctor you are seeing more like a salesperson than a trusted doctor - but don't let that scare you off. Just remain skeptical and don't believe everything she says.