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Posted on 5/8/17 at 4:36 pm to
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 4:36 pm to
I'd say it's a stretch more so than the people who say that vaccines can cause autism.

There is still no definate cause for ASD, since asberger's and other diagnosis are included in ASD, the etiology will increase. Approximately 1:68 kids now will be diagnosed with ASD.

If you've seen one child then you've seen one child with ASD. Children are very different.
Posted by KCS
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:42 pm to
Quack Attack! The Case of the Dangerous Sippy Cup
By Steven Milloy Published April 06, 2001 Fox News
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You might not be shocked to learn that a personal injury lawyer is threatening a lawsuit alleging a plastic drinking cup caused a child's autism. Personal injury lawyers, after all, are notorious for turning wild and unsubstantiated claims into multi-million, and even billion-dollar paydays for themselves.

But you might be surprised to learn there is a network of "experts" who are ready, willing and able to support such a wild claim. Lawsuit abuse is certainly a problem. But the threat posed by these supposed experts is more acute. They put public health at risk.

Dallas-based lawyer Brian R. Arnold wrote Playtex Products, Inc. in January alleging that a toddler became seriously ill and, eventually, "began to exhibit autistic behavior," after drinking from a plastic spill-proof cup made by Playtex.

Arnold claims the spill-proof cup was designed in a defective manner that allowed bacteria and mold to build in the cup. Alleging the bacteria caused the child's condition, Arnold accused Playtex of negligence in distributing a defective cup and demanded $11 million in damages.

In a rational world, this lawsuit would have no chance of success.

No one knows what causes autism. The condition is believed to be predominantly genetic in origin. In 1995, a National Institutes of Health working group reached a consensus that autism likely depends on multiple gene interaction.

Factors that cause injury to the fetal brain during the first trimester of pregnancy, such as the drug thalidomide and alcohol, are also associated with autism. No evidence indicates that late-pregnancy or after-birth events are associated with autism.

In sum, Arnold's claim is not supported by any of what little is known about autism, according to a renowned autism expert.

Undaunted, Arnold did what any good lawyer would do. He cobbled together "experts" with the "right" answer.

He discovered a cottage industry that makes a living promoting bacteria, antibiotics, vaccines, certain foods, and chemicals in the environment as causes of autism. These experts include Dr. Stephanie Cave and William Shaw, Ph.D.

Dr. Cave, who runs a "holistic" general practice in Baton Rouge, diagnosed the child with "dysbiosis," a serious-sounding medical condition. Dysbiosis means one's intestinal bacteria are somehow out of "balance." Dr. Cave says dysbiosis is associated with behavioral disorders and autism in children.

As it turns out, dysbiosis is a quacky concept promoted by alternative medicine industry. Dysbiosis is not recognized by mainstream medical experts.

William Shaw, Ph.D., who runs the Great Plains Laboratory, reported that the child had elevated levels of yeast by-products, indicating a "yeast/fungal overgrowth of the gastrointestinal tract." Dr. Shaw says such yeast infections cause autism.

Even giving Dr. Shaw's theory the benefit of doubt, the bacteria found on the Playtex cup was not the same kind that was found in the child.

Though these "experts" have no credible evidence that "dysbiosis" or yeast cause autism, they exploit the circumstances of autism.

Autistic behavior becomes apparent as children enter the stage when they go from saying a few words to generating more complex and communicative language, between the ages of 16 months to 36 months. Though the damage leading to autism is genetic or occurs very early in pregnancy, the condition isn't noticeable until development doesn't progress normally.

Parents whose children "turn" autistic often associate the onset of disease with some event or environmental exposure after birth. Though years of intensive investigation has failed to discover any sort of post-natal cause, so-called experts like Drs. Cave and Shaw exploit the parents' understandable and desperate search for a cause of their children's autism.

The lawsuit aside, though, quacks like these put us all at risk.

In 1998, British researchers reported that a few dozen children developed autism after receiving the measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine. The researchers claimed the vaccine harmed the brain. Fanned by quacks, panic quickly spread through news stories and the Internet. Ireland, in particular, was hit hard.

Measles incidence in Dublin increased nearly 10 times, including several deaths, following a drop in vaccination rates associated with the MMR alarm.

But the MMR-autism link fails the test of reality. A recent study in the Journal of the American Medical Association and several other studies from the U.K. report no correlation between autism rates and vaccination rates. These studies report no dramatic increase in autism when the MMR vaccination became common.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Institutes of Health, American Academy of Pediatrics, National Alliance for Autism Research and other organizations have worked hard to debunk the MMR-autism myth and avoid a deadly epidemic of measles.

Playtex is in the process of responding to Arnold's demand. However, it ultimately dispenses with the baseless claims, hopefully Playtex won't do anything that encourages the autism quacks to perpetuate their public health-threatening ideas.



Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:45 pm to
Solid first post



Not BayouJ solid, but solid
Posted by LSU Wayne
Walker
Member since Apr 2005
4464 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:53 pm to
I would consider looking out of state for more expertise before resorting to some voodoo crap if it were me. And that's coming from someone who's done just that with a child with very difficult medical challenges.

I have found legit closed facebook groups to have a wealth of informative people willing to direct you to the best specialists if you know which groups to join and which to avoid. And take time to research and gather opinions before jumping the gun.

I don't know what your immediate need is, but I know another family whose son has similar issues to my daughter (multiple medical issues) in addition to speech apraxia. They've had good success with specialists in Houston.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

She isn't anti-vaccine kind of crazy, but she believes in spreading them out instead of giving them 4 at a time


That is almost as scientifically crazy as being anti-vaccine
Posted by birdieman
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2012
1647 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:59 pm to
Good luck, Mr. Wayne.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

I have had an ER doctor go from wanting to do an EEG after he had a seizure to saying, "oh he doesnt' talk? See about getting him diagnosed with Autism being that it's common for kid's with that."


Don't take this the wrong way but the ER doc is focused on treating/preventing emergencies. the kid being non-verbal at baseline was significant for ruling out a life threatening emergency. Referring to get the kid tested for autism was much better medicine than doing unnecessary/irrelevant tests in the ER. Also, I would like to extend my sympathies.
Posted by lola
Member since Oct 2017
1 post
Posted on 10/24/17 at 10:26 pm to
Just wanted to know if you finally took your son to see Dr Cave and what is your opinion about her, my 4-year-old son was recently diagnosed and we are contemplating the possibility to use biomedical intervention
Posted by TigerRagAndrew
Check my style out
Member since Aug 2004
7258 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 10:49 pm to
Only send him if you want to be several thousand dollars poorer with nothing to show for it
This post was edited on 10/24/17 at 10:50 pm
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
69077 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 10:53 pm to
I don't know much about the subject of autism medically or scientifically, but I can tell you from first hand experience that a couple we know here in West Palm have a pretty severely autistic son. He has now been at the Ernie Els center for excellence in Jupiter FL since it opened in 2015 and he is markedly improved from whatever schooling and therapy that he has been given there. It's pretty amazing.

LINK

Good luck to you and your family
Posted by Fusaichi Pegasus
Meh He Co
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Posted on 10/24/17 at 11:08 pm to
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