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re: Dr. Jason Karp shows the difference between Canada's Fruit Loop Cereal and America's
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:21 am to Oates Mustache
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:21 am to Oates Mustache
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You continue to miss the point, or you're just arguing to argue.
These companies shouldn't be allowed to manufacture food products that include known cancer causing chemicals, dyes, etc.
It's not about shutting down all cereal products. These companies use Americans as lab rats to see what this shite does to us. There unfortunately has to be heavy regulations for a product that is ingested by humans.
No, you are missing the point.
There's not a single person worth talking about that thinks that fruit loops are the healthiest option available. NONE.
People buy it because they want to, and that should be allowed. END OF STORY.
I don't give a shite what you eat, none. Stop caring what I eat, move on to more important things.
I will 100% get on board with not allowing food stamps to buy crap like this, but I would also get on board with not giving welfare to a shite ton of people.
You want to know the #1 reason that Euros weigh less than Americans, its because they walk a frick ton more. They drive less and walk.
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Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:22 am to baldona
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baldona
STFU. Geez your response was the whinest childish post. No one is saying you can't eat or do anything. Nothing wrong with making improvements.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:24 am to baldona
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If it comes in a cardboard box and is manufactured, its probably not that great for you. Its not that shocking.
Let's give you what you really want here.
You're smarter than most people because you understand that packaged and processed foods are bad. You're an intelligent person. Smarter than 98% of people.
Now that that is out the way, what is your point and/or solution here? Whether you like it or not, whether it's right or wrong, we have a real obesity and food education issue in this country.
Is your solution that it isn't your problem and people should smarten up? How do you posit that happens?
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:25 am to Oates Mustache
quote:ethanol is a poison, perfectly legal. There are about 60 chemicals in tobacco smoke known to cause cancer, perfectly legal. If you want a warning label on a box of fruit loops, fine I’m all in agreement. But, fruit loop consumption (as well as alcohol, tobacco, soft drinks, etc) remains and will remain optional.
These companies shouldn't be allowed to manufacture food products that include known cancer causing chemicals, dyes, etc.
you do not have to put garbage in your body. If the argument is that genpop is too stupid to care for themselves then perhaps genpop needs a cull
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:26 am to stout
quote:Pardon my ignorance, but how does adding all this crap to food save the manufacturers money?
They are allowed because it saves the manufacturers money
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:26 am to baldona
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There's not a single person worth talking about that thinks that fruit loops are the healthiest option available. NONE.
People buy it because they want to, and that should be allowed. END OF STORY.
Do you think Fruit Loops would taste different without the dyes?
No one is saying to ban Fruit Loops. They are questioning why our Fruit Loops have additives other countries don't allow.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:26 am to stout
Most cereal is incredibly unhealthy. But I won't lie, every now and then I still crave it and will buy a box.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:27 am to TripleBarrelBluff1
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You know, you can only hand wave "personal choice" for so long. It completely ignores hundreds of other factors and pressures that play in to these things.
It's ridiculous that trying to hold companies accountable and questioning things somehow is a terrible thing.
It's an extremely myopic view of "freedom."
You know what Europeans are free to do? Shop for their groceries without having to research what chemicals are in them and how those chemicals can be detrimental to long-term health.
Sounds like that would be a nice freedom to have. It's the freedom that our FDA is theoretically supposed to provide, similar to how our law enforcement agencies give us the freedom to go about our daily lives in public without having to worry about getting mugged by gangs of vigilantes.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:27 am to TX Tiger
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Pardon my ignorance, but how does adding all this crap to food save the manufacturers money?
Cheaper to make fake dyes than to extract natural dyes
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:27 am to cgrand
It's intentional and negligent deception and it's marketed to kids. There's really nothing you can post that counterpoints this.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:28 am to Odysseus32
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Let's give you what you really want here.
You're smarter than most people because you understand that packaged and processed foods are bad. You're an intelligent person. Smarter than 98% of people.
See, that's what you don't understand and the entire ignorance of this thread.
You suggesting that everyone that is fat is dumb and that everyone that is smart is skinny?
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:29 am to PrettyBird
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What is most sad about this to me are lower income families with kids who are stuck in this cycle.
I worked in this arena for a few years and I can tell you that the low income families have no desire to change eating habits. Countless money has been spent to "educate" them on how to prepare meals, make healthy choices, and they still won't. Based on my observations I think the problem is much more cultural rather than the food itself.
The destruction of the family unit has resulted in families no longer preparing meals together and sitting down for a meal. There is a lost culture of passing down the ways to grow and prepare food for your family.
There's no connection to what is food and what is a treat. Treats(junk food) are viewed as sustenance and therefore for chosen over whole foods because of the convenience.
One issue that I see, even today in my kids schools, is selling concessions at lunch time to raise money. Kids bypass the lunch to buy candy.
I think we could remove all dyes and preservatives and the US would still be just as fat because people will still choose the intense flavor, high carbs, and refined sugars over whole foods.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:29 am to Odysseus32
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Is your solution that it isn't your problem
If he has health insurance, then it is his problem since Obamacare took effect. His premiums increased to cover those people eating Fruit Loops for breakfast.
This post was edited on 9/25/24 at 9:29 am
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:30 am to cgrand
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But, fruit loop consumption (as well as alcohol, tobacco, soft drinks, etc) remains and will remain optional.
I think most of us in here are in agreement with this, however a lot of people are shitting on the woman testifying in Congress because the logic is "if you didn't know this already, you're a moron" as if they were born with an inherent knowledge that food corporations exist for profit. As if they didn't at one time also have to learn this information.
The point is, while this is becoming more common knowledge, there are a shite ton of parents who don't conceptualize this and just want their kid to stop throwing a fit after they changed the color of fruit roll-ups.
There needs to be more widespread information. We are all on a Louisiana-based internet message board that most of the state of Louisiana does not know exists. We aren't exactly the best ones to determine if information is already appropriately distributed.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:30 am to TX Tiger
Fillers, imitations/replacements for "cleaner" ingredients that cost more, preservatives that increase shelf life so less lost product due to spoilage.
Maybe not a money savings per se, but through R&D the company can find out which ingredients enhance color, taste, texture etc, leading to more sales.
Maybe not a money savings per se, but through R&D the company can find out which ingredients enhance color, taste, texture etc, leading to more sales.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:30 am to baldona
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Yes. I also RA'd this
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Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:31 am to jrowla2
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Lots of food deserts where the only options are dollar general tree and highly processed crap.
Food deserts exist because the locals steal the grocery stores out of business
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:31 am to stout
MAHA!
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:33 am to stout
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carbonated beverage after cutting the grass is so good.
Unsweetened sparkling water is where it's at. I've changed over to that several years ago and it's very rare that I'll have a coke. Never, really.
Posted on 9/25/24 at 9:34 am to stout
who cares? You nor your kids shouldnt be eating fricking fruit loops anyways, not at any appreciable rate. Dont eat that shite and if you do, well....you deserve anything that comes to you.
feed your kids eggs and meat like uncured bacon, steak, ground beef, homemade sausage, some potatoes and some fruit in some form in the morning
shite isnt hard.
and as much as i love RFK, his policies(while good) are not going to help the obesity problem. That comes from getting people more active and reducing the appetite for things like fruit loops. We have a Calories in vs calories out problem
people eat too god damn much because they eat dog shite like fruit loops and dont eat nearly enough protien. most normies consider 75g a day or protein a lot.
feed your kids eggs and meat like uncured bacon, steak, ground beef, homemade sausage, some potatoes and some fruit in some form in the morning
shite isnt hard.
and as much as i love RFK, his policies(while good) are not going to help the obesity problem. That comes from getting people more active and reducing the appetite for things like fruit loops. We have a Calories in vs calories out problem
people eat too god damn much because they eat dog shite like fruit loops and dont eat nearly enough protien. most normies consider 75g a day or protein a lot.
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