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re: Does anyone know what happens to St. George students who want to stay in EBRSS schools?
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:36 pm to armytiger96
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:36 pm to armytiger96
Since 2003 the St. George area has experienced significant growth. Are argument for additional schools could easily be made when accounting for the population growth over the past 23 years.
Once the district is approved and funds are collected a serious discussion around the funding of an entirely new school can be made. In the meantime, St. George can take their large amount of tax dollars and pump them into the existing school, instead of that money being taken to subsidize failing schools.
St. George could easily make the teachers in their district some of the highest paid in the state. They could make additions to existing buildings, increase the school’s resources for academic programs, athletic programs, security, and other items.
Yes things won’t change overnight, but St. George would immediately become one of the most well funded districts in the entire state with the ability to make some significant short term improvements over the existing situation.
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If it was about the number of schools in the area then how come the current leadership isn't selling their plan for additional schools? What is their plan other than we're not EBR?
Once the district is approved and funds are collected a serious discussion around the funding of an entirely new school can be made. In the meantime, St. George can take their large amount of tax dollars and pump them into the existing school, instead of that money being taken to subsidize failing schools.
St. George could easily make the teachers in their district some of the highest paid in the state. They could make additions to existing buildings, increase the school’s resources for academic programs, athletic programs, security, and other items.
Yes things won’t change overnight, but St. George would immediately become one of the most well funded districts in the entire state with the ability to make some significant short term improvements over the existing situation.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:38 pm to armytiger96
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Now, finally valid reasons to support the new district! All the other reasons are BS that has been spewed here and across town to ad nauseam over the past 15 years or so.
You are exaggerating. 15 years ago the fight was to get control of our schools and to give parents a better choice.
The money deal is relatively new. It’s important, but in my opinion not THE reason.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:47 pm to TooncesAndOmar
I understand your position. You probably have kids at BRHMS or Liberty Magnet, and as I said earlier I understand people voting no in their own self interest.
But I also don’t want this can kicked down the road even more It’s taken over 8 years to even get to this point, and I’m not sure all of your concerns could be addressed even if we allowed more time to pass. Like most big decisions there is a risk of uncertainty involved. Personally I’ll take that risk for the potential of a better future rather than continuing with the broken status quo.
But I also don’t want this can kicked down the road even more It’s taken over 8 years to even get to this point, and I’m not sure all of your concerns could be addressed even if we allowed more time to pass. Like most big decisions there is a risk of uncertainty involved. Personally I’ll take that risk for the potential of a better future rather than continuing with the broken status quo.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:48 pm to TooncesAndOmar
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I want the NO vote to mean, "No, we do not trust you blindly. Listen to parents more. Then let’s vote."
It’s been a decade or so.
The City of SG was founded on the premise that a new school system would follow. It wasn’t the only reason, but it was the driving force.
Now you recommend taking our time. For what??
The city passed by a good margin. Now it’s time to pass the ISD. No there are no guarantees, but from what I’ve seen with SG there’s a process that’s open for everyone to get involved.
I’ve seen improved services and city services getting done. Nothing happens over night, but you can’t just wait and wait and just talk about it.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 12:50 pm to TooncesAndOmar
You see , it is possible to have rational discussions on the OT
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:10 pm to doubleb
Your reply was informational but it didn't answer either of the questions I asked and which you replied to.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:10 pm to armytiger96
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If additional schools are the issue how come they are not part of the plan for the new district that I have been asked to vote on.
St. George will take over 3 parcels of land that EBRPSS bought to build schools on. I think it’s important to note that these parcels of land were bought in 2022.
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Perhaps you can provide a copy of the plan since no one else in this thread has.
As I stated numerous times in this thread. There is no formal in writing plan because that’s illegal.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:23 pm to LSURussian
Why should StG be denied the freedom to control their own destiny? That is the whole basis of this country. Tell them to buy a house in BR. Problem solved
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:43 pm to armytiger96
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Your turn, what brand new (additional) schools have been built inside the limits since 2003?
There wasn’t a need. Do you understand how supply & demand works?
Population in ZIP codes: 70816, 70810, 70817 (all St. George) have seen a 25% increase in population from 2003. Meanwhile, 70805, 70802, 70806 (Baton Rouge) have seen anywhere from 6-25% drop in population.
But anywhere here’s a list of investment by EBRPSS since 2003:
-Broadmoor Elementary (rebuilt in 2017)
-Claiborne Elementary (built in 2011)
-Northeast High School (built in 2003)
-Capitol Elementary (built in 2008)
-Istrouma High School (updated in 2018)
-Park Elementary (built in 2019)
-Progress Elementary (built in 2013)
-Winbourne Elementary (built in 2007)
-BRCVPA Elementary (rebuilt in 2025)
-BRMHS (renovated in 2012)
-Capitol Middle School (built in 2004)
-CTECH High School (built in 2018)
-McKinley Middle (built in 2006)
-The Dufroq School (renovated in 2009)
-Woodlawn Elementary (built in 2009)
-Woodlawn High School (built in 2003)
-Woodlawn Middle School (built in 2006)
-Liberty High School (built in 2016)
-McKinley High School (currently rebuilding)
-Jefferson Terrace Elementary (built in 2020)
-University Terrace Elementary (rebuilt in 2019)
-Brownsfield Elementary (rebuilt in 2018)
-Scotlandville High School (renovated in 2005)
-Glen Oaks High School (renovated in 2020)
Those listed in bold serve 350 kids or less. The population increase in Southen BR didn’t start in 2003.
Adding that Winbourne Elementary & Capitol Middle have since closed,
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:54 pm to SoggyCerealClub
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he schools within the district are at or near overcapacity- Shenandoah Elementary, Woodlawn Middle & High
Woodlawn High School has a lower enrollment this school year than it did 4 years ago, 1,392 in 2022 & 1,331 this year. Sixty one fewer students means an average of between 2 and 3 fewer classrooms needed.
Woodlawn Middle School has declined in enrollment every year for the past 5 school years. Five years ago WMS had an enrollment of "over 900 students." This school year WHS enrollment is 842 students. 58 fewer students means there's likely space available.
I can't find a history of enrollment numbers for Shenandoah Elementary but I did find that Shenandoah Elem has a very successful Gifted program. Will it remain a Gifted school if St. George takes over?
I have not found any SG official saying whether or not the new St. George school district will offer Gifted, Talented or Magnet programs any where in the new proposed district.
I wonder why not??
Posted on 5/7/26 at 1:59 pm to LSURussian
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by LSURussianYour reply was informational but it didn't answer either of the questions I asked and which you replied to.
I forgot which ones did I miss?
Posted on 5/7/26 at 2:16 pm to LSURussian
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Woodlawn High School has a lower enrollment this school year than it did 4 years ago, 1,392 in 2022 & 1,331 this year. Sixty one fewer students means an average of between 2 and 3 fewer classrooms needed.
FYI, a classroom expansion at WHS was recently completed.
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I have not found any SG official saying whether or not the new St. George school district will offer Gifted, Talented or Magnet programs any where in the new proposed district.
I wonder why not??
Because it wouldn’t be official?
Both my kids were determined to be “gifted” so I’m not someone that got slighted, but this gifted nonsense was designed to flatter parents and to get and keep their kids enrolled in EBR.
Most of my kid’s friends were “gifted”. Most got on the bus and travelled a long way to middle school, The strategy worked.
Now I do believe every public high school in SGISD should have college prep courses. Students could elect to take them if they chose to do so. If the demand for special electives was there, it would be great to offer art, music, shop, and other special classes.
The same things should apply to kids at lower level schools.
I don’t think labeling kids and segregating them by school is the answer. Providing them the resources they need in their neighborhoods is best.
Now I could see highly specialized courses set up if there is a demand, but that’s just one man’s opinion.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 2:22 pm to sharkfhin
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The only thing that will matter is what EBRSS says.
What matters most is the laws that come into effect if amendment passes. These laws include the guaranteed grandfather bands as well as approving students to attend any charter or magnet in the parish (if the selective admission requirements are met and maintained for magnets) including those on existing waiting lists not being displaced by new applicants.
After the guarantees the one possibly large obstacle is the ability of each district to prioritize “qualified” students living within each district’s boundaries. If the magnet schools have had enough qualify in the new EBRSS boundaries but have been left out due to still being behind better applicants then those in St George will have a problem after guarantee is up. If EBRSS lowers the restricted admissions standards to allow more to qualify for the magnet schools who reside inside the new EBRSS then those in St George will have a problem after guarantee is up, but in this case they would cease being the same quality as before.
Outside of those scenarios for charter and magnet schools no other state approvals are required to cross over districts as it’s already granted in the law if amendment passes.
The minimal foundation funding follows the students.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 5/7/26 at 2:25 pm to redstickrick
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Will St. George also let students from North BR attend their schools for free following the split? (Of course not, nor should they.) I mean either its two school systems or its not. I don't understand the frustration with this other than kids cant continue to the same high school as their friends, which was never guaranteed anyways.
If it's a magnet school rather than a public school, then I am sure St George would allow it. School districts want high achieving kids.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 2:29 pm to LSURussian
Different situation but would think it was similar.
New HS opens. Kids in new district could finish at current HS or move to new one.
But the 8th graders moving on to 9th had no choice. They would be the first new full freshman class.
New HS opens. Kids in new district could finish at current HS or move to new one.
But the 8th graders moving on to 9th had no choice. They would be the first new full freshman class.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 5/7/26 at 2:30 pm to doubleb
quote:So, more classrooms for fewer students? Don't you just love government decision making?
FYI, a classroom expansion at WHS was recently completed.
On the other hand why are SG officials bitching about no school improvements in St. George area schools??
quote:Sorry, but that's a cop out.
Because it wouldn’t be official?
Politicians frequently give answers to important questions which aren't "official."
A simple, "We tentatively plan on developing our own advanced class programs for a college preparatory curriculum..." would be great for parents of SG students to hear.
Instead...SILENCE.
Posted on 5/7/26 at 2:32 pm to LSURussian
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I have not found any SG official saying whether or not the new St. George school district will offer Gifted, Talented or Magnet programs any where in the new proposed district. I wonder why not??
Because St. George is not yet a school district with a dedicated school board. Why would they comment on something they can’t legally guarantee?
Posted on 5/7/26 at 2:33 pm to LSURussian
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Their kids don't want to leave their schools (and their friends) but when our relative contacted St. George officials behind the new school district effort and then an EBRSS official she got completely different explanations for what happens in their situation.
How many of their friends are going to be staying through the end of high school? What will the school look like in the next 5 years if the split occurs? Something to think about
Posted on 5/7/26 at 2:33 pm to LSURussian
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If EBR built new schools in that area would parents there pull their kids out of private schools in such large numbers to populate the new schools?
I doubt it as long as EBRSS is in charge of them.
Not sure on process but sub district special tax districts can be formed to fund schools in that sub district like Watson did to build a new school there, but no one will vote for those in StG as long as EBRSS is in control of the schools. Besides control the extra funding will likely just mean more from regular funds gets spent outside of StG.
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