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Does anyone else find Marx’s view of history interesting?
Posted on 5/15/25 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 5/15/25 at 1:41 pm
Not saying I agree with his beliefs about the overthrow of capitalism or its eventual death at all. But, I think one of the major stepping stones in my ability to critically think was to open up to a more class-based reading of history. It just makes things more interesting than always doing a top-down look.
It’s pretty liberating to just be okay listening to smart people even though I don’t agree with their politics, and not automatically shutting out entire schools of thought. Marxist thought has led to a lot of misery, but it doesn’t mean you can’t use it as a critical lens or get anything from it.
It’s pretty liberating to just be okay listening to smart people even though I don’t agree with their politics, and not automatically shutting out entire schools of thought. Marxist thought has led to a lot of misery, but it doesn’t mean you can’t use it as a critical lens or get anything from it.
This post was edited on 5/15/25 at 1:42 pm
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 1:42 pm to _Hurricane_
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Marx
groucho?
Posted on 5/15/25 at 1:45 pm to _Hurricane_
Lumping in Marxism and smart people is where you lost me. Anyone who espouses stupid shite like this is the type of person that desires to be seen as an intellect above their pay grade.
Having smart people debate in a vacuum will never morph into the dumb shite that resulted from Marxist thought because it’s inherently based on having narcissistic morons not being told to shut the frick up.
Having smart people debate in a vacuum will never morph into the dumb shite that resulted from Marxist thought because it’s inherently based on having narcissistic morons not being told to shut the frick up.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 1:46 pm to White Bear
dick marks 
Posted on 5/15/25 at 1:47 pm to _Hurricane_
If you want to learn, grow and develop, have to expand beyond your sphere.
I have Friedman, Marx and Adam Smith on night stand as I type.
Curiosity starts it. Validation of my beliefs or challenges to them end it. In both cases, I am better for it.
I have Friedman, Marx and Adam Smith on night stand as I type.
Curiosity starts it. Validation of my beliefs or challenges to them end it. In both cases, I am better for it.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 1:49 pm to Jax Teller
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Lumping in Marxism and smart people is where you lost me. Anyone who espouses stupid shite like this is the type of person that desires to be seen as an intellect above their pay grade.
Lol
Posted on 5/15/25 at 1:50 pm to Jax Teller
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Lumping in Marxism and smart people is where you lost me. Anyone who espouses stupid shite like this is the type of person that desires to be seen as an intellect above their pay grade.
See this is how I used to think. But it’s ridiculous to think that there aren’t smart Marxists or people who use Marxist ideas can’t be smart. I don’t agree with them, but being so cocksure about how they all are dumbasses is just something I don’t think anymore.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 1:51 pm to Jax Teller
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Lumping in Marxism and smart people is where you lost me. Anyone who espouses stupid shite like this is the type of person that desires to be seen as an intellect above their pay grade.
Having smart people debate in a vacuum will never morph into the dumb shite that resulted from Marxist thought because it’s inherently based on having narcissistic morons not being told to shut the frick up.
The irony dripping from this post is pretty incredible.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 1:51 pm to _Hurricane_
He was an incredibly angry and depressed person - much of his melancholy fed his envy of his peers.
In short he was much the loser.
In short he was much the loser.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 1:52 pm to winkchance
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He was an incredibly angry and depressed person
Well he did live in 19th century Russia
Posted on 5/15/25 at 1:55 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Well he did live in 19th century Russia
Prussia/Germany
Posted on 5/15/25 at 1:56 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Well he did live in 19th century Russia
No he didn’t.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 1:57 pm to _Hurricane_
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Marxist thought has led to a lot of misery
Should have ended there.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 2:03 pm to Jax Teller
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Lumping in Marxism and smart people is where you lost me. Anyone who espouses stupid shite like this is the type of person that desires to be seen as an intellect above their pay grade.
Having smart people debate in a vacuum will never morph into the dumb shite that resulted from Marxist thought because it’s inherently based on having narcissistic morons not being told to shut the frick up.
I'm sure you possess an astute understanding of Marixan thought to offer this scathing critique
Posted on 5/15/25 at 2:04 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Prussia/Germany
He was born there but lived most of his life in London.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 2:18 pm to _Hurricane_
I took some critical theory classes in college and did find some of the philosophical writings and debates, particularly among the Frankfurt school guys to be interesting and easier to digest than Marx.
Posted on 5/15/25 at 2:27 pm to _Hurricane_
He was spoiled brat much like his followers
Posted on 5/15/25 at 2:32 pm to _Hurricane_
Groucho Marx?
Posted on 5/15/25 at 2:37 pm to Artificial Ignorance
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I have Friedman, Marx and Adam Smith on night stand as I type.
I salute you, but those three would be on the bottom of my interest scale.
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