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re: Do you think you could fly a plane with no formal training? A helicopter?

Posted on 10/26/17 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by Tesla
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 3:45 pm to
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Message Do you think you could fly a plane with no formal training? A helicopter? by BlackHelicopterPilot I heard a semi-retarded chimp can fly fixed wing craft. I hear only brilliant and great looking people can fly helicopters


That’s balls on accurate.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 3:50 pm to
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We had this program run by a retired pilot in my school district called aerospace. You learned about the science of flight and such and then there was this flight test you did at the end. It was in a flight simulator. Not on a computer but a fully equipped, expensive professional simulator. As a 14 year old I did a full flight test perfectly on one attempt. I think people equate the risks of flying with the difficulty of flying.




I'd need a quick breakdown of the basics: how to read the gauges (vacuum, oil temp, oil pressure, etc.); where all the buttons are (throttle, flaps, trim, fuel pump, whatever the hell else). At that point, you're basically getting formal training though. I don't think your average person would know enough to sit in it and go. Like how would you know how many RPMs to put the throttle before takeoff?

If I got a few-minute crash course (or some time with a flight manual) I might be able to take off and maybe keep it in the air for a while, but on my own I wouldn't know the first place to start with this:



This post was edited on 10/26/17 at 3:54 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 3:51 pm to
Fly? Yes. Land safely? No
Posted by onelochevy
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2011
18378 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 3:53 pm to
Small plane, maybe. No way I could get a helicopter off the ground and keep it there.
This post was edited on 10/26/17 at 3:54 pm
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25428 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 3:53 pm to
I have no idea what any of that shite does. Maybe there's a chance I could guess right on how to use the accelerator and just pull up with take off, and I could probably at least hold the stick steady and do gentle turns while in the air. But anything I get right with the take off would be pure luck and could easily go wrong and if absolutely anything goes wrong, I am fricking crashing.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
11250 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 3:53 pm to
My son is a pilot and my first born. I know this because I have considered selling him to pay for flight time, instructors, and fuel. He tells me flying a modern airplane is almost like playing a video game until it comes time to land.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
7124 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 3:54 pm to
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Fly? Yes. Land safely? No


Exactly what I was thinking. At least for a plane.

Pretty sure I couldn't even fly a helicopter though.
Posted by AlaskanLSUfan
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Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 3:55 pm to
I have a private pilot’s license and grew up around aviation. The concept of fixed wing is being able to understand that power (or throttle) and pitch contribute to flying the aircraft. If you understand balancing those then flying is a piece of cake and you should have plenty of time to react if something happens. That all being said, you could fly and possibly land with no formal training if you understand those concepts and were aware of stall speeds, etc.

Helicopters are unforgiving. You constantly have to be on your toes and in the event of engine failure, you have about a second to two to put it in autorotation (pitch down to force the rotors to spin, which gives you some lift) or you turn into a rock in the air. So no, you cannot fly a helicopter without formal training.
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 3:56 pm to
Here I am trying to fly a helicopter.

Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 3:56 pm to
Yes on plane no on helicopter
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 4:04 pm to
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Do you think you could fly a plane with no formal training?

I had some basic flight training on a simulator in middle school. Does that count as formal training?

I just ask because I'm in the Bossier Parish Flight Simulator Hall of Fame.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 4:14 pm to
Fly an airplane that's already cruising? Sure, for a little while. I've flown a Piper Cub before with a pilot behind me to make sure I didn't do anything stupid and stall it or put it into a spin or something like that. Without that pilot, I doubt my ability to avoid doing something stupid and stall it or put it into a spin or something like that and I highly doubt my ability to recover the aircraft from one of those conditions without some training no matter how much I've played flight sims.

Take off? Sure. Stay in the air? Questionable. Lots can go wrong once you're off the ground but before you get the plane up to a relatively safe altitude and airspeed.

Land? Splat.

Helicopter? Instasplat.
This post was edited on 10/26/17 at 4:25 pm
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
23354 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 4:17 pm to
An Airliner is Easy

Captain Joe guides someone with no flight experience
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 4:23 pm to
You can read the manual it walks you through it step by step.


Small plane usual take off at 55-65 land at 45-55.
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
13580 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 4:34 pm to
I've flown a small plane for about 30 minutes. No way I'd ever try to land one without formal training. It was an older Cessna prop and takeoff wasn't exactly smooth, but I got it off the ground. Flew the first half hour, then let the real pilot in the passenger seat take the controls and land it.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 4:37 pm to
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I say could take off, fly, and land a small aircraft.


No prior training or knowledge? 0% chance you land it safely without the help of step by step instructions from a professional.
This post was edited on 10/26/17 at 4:41 pm
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
48187 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 4:43 pm to
I've taken flight lessons so I am sure I can still land the Cessna.

Helicopter, I've flown in alot and remember thinking I would like to try... But it seems like alot of muscle memory and practice so I doubt anyone could on the first attempt.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103914 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 4:44 pm to
Fly yea.

Land it? Ehhh. Maybe if I had a lot of open space and it was a small craft. I'm pretty good at driving anything u try. You just throttle down and glide in and pull the nose up before you touch. I doubt I could get the timing right to stay on a short runway but in plenty of space I could probably pull it off without killing myself
Posted by Man4others
Member since Aug 2017
2515 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 4:48 pm to
I feel like I could fly a C-130. Land a C-130? No
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 4:53 pm to
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