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re: Do You Think Felons Should Be Able To Legally Have Firearms?

Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:17 am to
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71722 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:17 am to
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Do You Think Felons Should Be Able To Legally Have Firearms?


Yes.

If they did their time and have been released from prison after their sentence has been carried out, I see no reason why they can't own a firearm. The 2nd Amendment is quite clear (shall NOT be infringed) on this.

One of the reasons why convicted felons are likely to commit another felony again is that we ostracize them from society after they have done their time for their crime. These people should be welcomed back into the world with open arms and shown that people do care and that they do matter.

One of the ways to do that is by granting them their god-given right to self-preservation.
Posted by SulphursFinest
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2015
11897 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 4:59 am to
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I don’t care who has guns


Good lord
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
13057 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 5:15 am to
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There's a wide range of felonies

If it's something to do with violence no.

This. Taking someone's guns away because they committed fraud or counterfeiting doesn't make sense.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
7362 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 5:42 am to
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One of the reasons why convicted felons are likely to commit another felony again is that we ostracize them from society after they have done their time for their crime. These people should be welcomed back into the world with open arms and shown that people do care and that they do matter.


The problem with this is, there are a huge number of felons that get out and have every intention of committing more felonies. Someone who went to prison for theft, what job are you going to whole heartedly trust them with? The job opportunities becomes much more narrow for jobs where opportunity theft is either mitigated or eliminated. Same can be said for many other crimes.

Red Flag laws: I've had two kids in my family murdered by their father who would have had his gun rights removed if we had red flag laws. I'd 100% give up my guns if it meant we could have those two back. BUT, the world we live in, there are so many avenues to get a gun, that there is a HUGE chance he would have gotten a gun one way or another.

The next problem is, once someone is called out for having red flags, what is the burden of proof to get their right to possess a gun back? This is the biggest hurdle in the red flag proposition IMO. It also implies a trust in whatever rules the government implements.

Lastly, the most overwhelming disappointment of liberal ideas is that their ideas aren't necessarily in bad faith, they're just out of touch with reality. The way things work in their head aren't the way things work in reality. This is a great example of that. Create red flag laws that prevent someone displaying odd behavior from having a gun. . . not a bad idea logically speaking, except the law itself doesn't prevent them from getting their hands on a gun. It's just another law to break on the road to breaking another law.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80825 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 5:46 am to
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If they can be trusted to live in society again, their rights should be restored.


By that logic, there should be no such thing as a registered sex offender.

If they can be trusted to live in society again, their right to privacy should be restored.

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One of the reasons why convicted felons are likely to commit another felony again is that we ostracize them from society after they have done their time for their crime. These people should be welcomed back into the world with open arms and shown that people do care and that they do matter.


See my initial response above
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 5:50 am
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 6:54 am to
We all know felons will buy legally obtained weapons if allowed. Lol!

It is such a disgrace for them to have to buy a weapon that the serial number been scratched off.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 7:26 am to
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Good lord


Problem?
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32414 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:19 am to
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Yes, felons released from prison and finished with probation should be allowed to own guns. If they can be trusted to live in society again, their rights should be restored.


Yes, especially if it's non-violent crimes, like theft or felony DWI.
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
5632 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:59 am to
Depends on the felony.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39235 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:02 am to
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If someone is acting irrational and there is concern because that person does have firearms in their home, I don't have a problem at all if law enforcement wants to temporarily take away their guns.


I wish law enforcement would take your wheelchair and internet access away.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
151561 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:05 am to
I think OweO lacks all critical thinking skills.

He is the target audience for 60 Minutes to give an elementary rational to red flag laws and then jump in line as a willful idiot.
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5066 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:36 am to
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For those who don't know exactly what the red flag law is, it is a gun control law that allows police or family members to petition a state court to order the temporary removal of firearms from someone who ALLEGEDLY is a danger to other people or themselves.
I fixed your post for you.

How does someone defend himself against lies that might be told by a spurned girlfriend or a po'd wife ?

How do you prove a negative (i.e. prove you've never acted irrationally) ?
Posted by whoisnickdoobs
Lafayette
Member since Apr 2012
9352 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:25 am to
I'm just glad OweO started a thread worthy reading.

And no, I don't think felons should legally be able to carry firearms.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38496 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:31 am to
If a guy went to jail for embezzlement or insider trading...why not.
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21814 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 11:46 am to
Now that you tanked your own thread, when do you logon to your Wisconsin Fan alter account
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