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re: Do You Agree With This Message From Franklin Graham?

Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:27 pm to
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:27 pm to
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Don't hold your breath while you wait on the rapture



You don't believe in Jesus?
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:38 pm to
It's pretty well accepted that Jesus was a real person who lived
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 10:58 pm to
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Yes I am saying that countries that still practice animism, Hinduism or Islam are going to be disadvantaged relative to neighboring nations that are majority Christian.

India has one of the highest GDPs in the world. They’re a global economic power. You do also realize there are wealthy Muslim countries right? In addition why did you ignore the poor African Protestant countries that the other poster and I mentioned? After all that was what the original response was about.

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Catholicism is a mixed bag because in some cultures (think South America) it is closer to animism than Protestantism.

So you’re just going to dismiss all the Latin American Christian countries because some (<—according to your own estimate) of them are supposedly animism? Seems to me you’re cherry picking here.

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In a global marketplace, embracing a Protestant worldview of hard work and Biblical morality is an asset.
The hard work view has existed before the 1400s. There have been empires, like the Roman for most of their history, that were pretty damn successful for a long time despite not being Christian.

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Guess which nation is projected to have the largest population of Christians in the world in the next 15 years? ... that would be China.

Bringing up China doesn’t help your argument at all. China rose to become a modern economic giant decades ago. Back when their Christian population was even smaller. You also said this:
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In a global marketplace, embracing a Protestant worldview of hard work and Biblical morality is an asset.
The Chinese people have certainly not embraced a Protestant view of hard work considering Christians (part of whom are Catholics) make up 2.5% of their population with the vast majority of their population being atheists or Buddhists. Even in 15 years Christians will still make up a tiny portion of the population. Certainly not a Christianized country. I also mentioned two predominantly non-Christian Asian countries in South Korea and Japan. Yet you ignored those two and brought up China.

Since there are non-Christian countries that have done well while also some Christian countries that have not done as well, how you consider that maybe they’re far other far more important factors. Those European and European descended countries have plenty of other things in common rather then a large Protestant population. Yet you think that’s the primary factor.
This post was edited on 12/28/19 at 12:25 am
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 12:05 am to
None of that is relevant to what FG actually wrote. He never mentioned wealth. He said “blessed.” Your secular materialistic thinking automatically equates the word blessed with wealth. “Blessed” is the divine giving of God’s favor. The favor that he blessed our nation with was liberty , societal harmony, self determination , basic natural rights unimpeded by Government, etc.. America is unique throughout all of known history. No other nations citizens have ever had the liberty of self determination free of an authoritarian government as has the citizens of America. All that he is saying is that the moral decay of our society is placing that divine favor in jeopardy.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 12:15 am to
I was responding to CivilTiger83 not the OP directly. He was questioning that there was no Protestant majority country that was a terrible place. He was referring to the success of those European nations. He also directly stated how their Protestantism plays a large part in the country’s standing in the global marketplace. No where did I quote the OP or FG or blessed or anything.
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 6:22 am to
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You're delusional

Don't hold your breath while you wait on the rapture


What am I delusional about? That there are significant groups of people (and growing) that are going after private citizens that hold beliefs advocated for in the New Testament?

You are make ad hominem attacks... are you a man of science and rationality?
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 6:24 am to
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I was responding to CivilTiger83 not the OP directly. He was questioning that there was no Protestant majority country that was a terrible place. He was referring to the success of those European nations. He also directly stated how their Protestantism plays a large part in the country’s standing in the global marketplace. No where did I quote the OP or FG or blessed or anything.


I didn’t say all Protestant majority nations are Shangri La... I asked you to name the shithole Protestant majority countries...
Posted by bamagreycoat
Member since Oct 2012
5749 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 6:28 am to
Bowl is one of the “scoffers” that was predicted to be around in the last days. If you have Amazon Prime check out “‘The Coming Convergence”, “‘The Daniel Project”, and “‘Megiddo, The March to Armageddon”’. Those three documentaries are very informative.
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 6:33 am to
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India has one of the highest GDPs in the world. They’re a global economic power. You do also realize there are wealthy Muslim countries right? In addition why did you ignore the poor African Protestant countries that the other poster and I mentioned? After all that was what the original response was about.


India entering new dark age...

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Even when India was an economic basket case of the world, it was a political and spiritual bright spot that guaranteed basic freedoms to its people and offered a refuge to Westerners seeking peace and spiritual wisdom. But under Prime Minister Narendra Modi, India is going backwards on every front: Its economy is in a free-fall (with growth at a six-year low and unemployment at a 45-year high); its polity is becoming authoritarian; and its dominant religion, Hinduism, is growing intolerant.


I didn’t say countries that are majority Muslim or Hindi cannot have wealth. I said ultimately those belief systems if they are enshrined into the government will lead to a restriction of economic and religious liberty that will limit that nations ability to thrive in a global economy.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 8:31 am to
He's right you know.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 8:35 am to
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America is unique throughout all of known history. No other nations citizens have ever had the liberty of self determination free of an authoritarian government as has the citizens of America.



Except for the black ones for almost 200 years.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31179 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 9:04 am to
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How long do you think it will be until Christians are targeted for holding core mainstream Biblical beliefs?


Historically during both times of persecution and persecuting Christians have been very effective professional victims.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 9:23 am to
India is expected to have the world’s economy by 2050. India’s problem is their ridiculous population density.

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I didn’t say countries that are majority Muslim or Hindi cannot have wealth. I said ultimately those belief systems if they are enshrined into the government will lead to a restriction of economic and religious liberty that will limit that nations ability to thrive in a global economy.


Why are you choosing to ignore most of what I said? You still haven’t addressed me or the other guy that brought up the African Protestant nations. You still haven’t addressed the Latin American Christian ones, since only some of them do you consider not really Christian. You haven’t addressed how Japan, South Korea, or even the China you brought up are doing extremely well. And there are Muslim and that Hindu nation that are thriving in the global economy more so then some Christian nations.
This post was edited on 12/28/19 at 12:38 pm
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24878 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 9:24 am to
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I didn’t say all Protestant majority nations are Shangri La... I asked you to name the shithole Protestant majority countries...




You seemed not to know there were any not well off Protestant nations and you haven’t addressed the ones I brought up
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:30 am to
Yep. Cycle of nations, bruh.

Tytler Cycle
Posted by CaptainDave
Member since Apr 2019
312 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 8:44 pm to
If my original post wasn’t clear enough then not sure what to say.
This post was edited on 12/28/19 at 8:45 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 9:41 pm to
Message is variation of blaming katrina on gay sex and jazz.

Do what i say or god will shun you when locusts come.
Posted by Techdog89
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2016
1007 posts
Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:13 pm to
Agree wholeheartedly. Thanks for the post!
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
22262 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 8:33 pm to
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US was built by slaves.


And now kids let's have our liberal deranged post of the day...
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