Techdog89

"JUST WIN BABY!" Al Davis :bow: :geauxtigers:

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He went to Texas and Harvard.

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Hell is full of people who went to Texas and Harvard. :geauxtigers:

I didn't say I disagreed with you and I stated that the 1st amendment example was not a great one. And, yes, they have the opportunity to believe in Jesus today, but some don't, in fact most don't. But all of us who believe in Jesus didn't at one time too. It's not automatic and something or someone will lead you to Him or not. I'm just allowing that they have free will to come to Jesus just as you and I do. If they don't, they will burn in hell. I don't think we disagree there. I think we disagree on supporting Israel. You don't seem to or at the very least can't justify it since the Jews killed Jesus. They did and it had to happen for prophecy to be fulfilled. Jesus didn't hate them for that, he knew it was coming. And Islam and Judaism are exactly the same distance from Jesus if you believe Jesus has been here since the beginning as part of the Trinity. Think of descendants of Abraham (Isaac and Ishmael) and you'll understand where Judaism and Islam come from. In the end I support Israel because there is a remnant that is serving God and will come to recognize Jesus in time. I am not supporting particular individuals in Israel as I don't know their hearts. So, whether the Prime Minister is evil, good or has anyone's best interests at heart is for God to decide. There have been many awful rulers in Israel/Judah who were downright evil. He may be one, I don't know. I don't think so, but I don't know his heart. That's all I have. I appreciate the discussion and respect your opinion. And I'm happy you're a believer in Jesus!

Anyone know where Justin Trudeau was this morning? :dunno:

This topic is not easy to navigate for most Christians. But I know this. Israel turned their backs on God many many times. And yes, God exiled them and handed them over to the Babylonians. He "allowed" them to be overtaken at different times to punish them for idol worship, breaking the laws according to their marriage covenant, marrying and having families with pagan women, defiling the temple, excessive taxation or interest on loans with each other, not keeping the Sabath holy, etc. They were under the thumb of other nations starting with the Egyptians all the way through the Romans.

But, remember this, there was always a remnant that would come back to God. God would offer a way of redemption, a way back to him through different prophets because he loves His people. We, gentiles are grafted in and are considered as part of His people now. So, yes, we should support the nation of Israel. Are all Jews in this world worshipping God, no. But I'm supporting the nation of Israel, the same nation that are the original people of God and now I'm a part of as a Christian. We, Americans are right to support Israel. Those who opposed the nation of Israel were dealt with severely when God was not using enemies to punish Israel. Often, they were wiped out, men, woman, children, animals. So, at this point I'm praying for Israel, the U.S., and those Iranians who want their freedom from Islamic tyranny. I pray those Iranians come to know Jesus like I have.

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the people that voted him in to office will continue to get free stuff.

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Not everyone who voted for him is poor and wanting free stuff. He is coming after the middle class and the remaining wealthy to fix the gigantic budget hole he has. It's only going to get larger, and these socialists/communists believe they can tax their way out of it. Never works and those foolish enough to vote for him, not getting free stuff, will figure out how bad he is for New York all too late. Now add in all of the social programs sure to follow and liberal crime policies and let's see who suffers from increased crime. Most of the victims will be those who voted for the free stuff. Sad to see it happen, not the first time and won't be the last time.

Program, like the bus, is in the ditch....

Chest tubes post op triple bypass surgery
Gall stones the size of quarters
Sciatic nerve pain from waist to ankle

Those chest tubes hurt the worst and once pulled out, instantly the pain was gone. Like a light switch.
Gall stones hurt so bad radiating through my back the ER doctor thought I was having a heart attack.
Sciatic nerve from herniated discs gave immense burning pains

Getting old is not for sissies! :cheers:

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Also, since when do we support forcing private businesses to serve everyone?

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The Bakery in Colorado that was targeted for not wanting to decorate a gay wedding cake says hello. Have you forgotten?

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Best advice ever given on this board. God bless you, your wife, and your entire family.

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Thank you, it's the truest statement I can give. We are far from perfect and full of flaws. He covers all of our shortcomings, pain and needs. We are blessed! Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family!

I know the rules...... but not today! :lol: