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re: Do waiters expect to get tipped post tax?

Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:50 pm to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:50 pm to
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You've demonstrated multiple times in this thread you have no idea how the restaurant industry works.



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Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:51 pm to
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It's laughable that so many of you think you're irreplaceable.


Not irreplaceable, but you hear people bitch and moan all the time about poor servers.

If the server isn't that big of a deal, why is it the biggest complaint of a meal?

If you've ever waited tables, you know it's more than just sitting around and bringing the occasional plate out.

Servers aren't doctors, lawyers or CEO's, but to act like you'd put up with that shite for minimum wage is laughable.

quote:

waiters need to get off their high horse

You guys are the ones shitting on servers as peons like you're some special guest everytime you walk into a restaurant.
Posted by LCA131
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:53 pm to
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Most waitresses/bartenders I know usually just blow/frick an ole man that owns a company for long enough and they get an office job at his company for 60K a yr.



Please don't tell me which one YOU did.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:53 pm to
The majority is from my pocket, your pocket, everyone's pocket but their employer and the shitty tippers.

Now tell me where it would come from if they were paid that much and we didn't tip.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:54 pm to
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because instead of making $40 per hour, they're stuck at making $30K a year.


Why not let the market pay them the $40/hr?

If they aren't worth it, the customer won't pay it.

I'm done. If any one of you don't think you should tip at a restaurant, then don't. This is ridiculous
This post was edited on 7/1/16 at 2:55 pm
Posted by Ryan3232
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:54 pm to
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Chad504boy
come on now. you sound like a fool.
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:55 pm to
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You think Waiters pay taxes on the sales and not the income from hourly wages and tips?

I know waiters pay taxes on their sales not just hourly wages and tips, unless it's changed. When I did payroll for the company where I also waited tables, we reported hours worked at hourly wage and a % of total sales as wages earned. It may have changed, but that's how it used to be.

ETA: We did not report tips as wages earned. They used the hourly wage and sales to estimate the taxes withheld.
This post was edited on 7/1/16 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:55 pm to
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come on now. you sound like a fool.




yet you're taking issue with nothing and hiding behind the curtain of "you don't get it" of waitering.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:55 pm to
He's just being a troll. Just like servers think they are worth all those thousands of dollars an hour they make in tips when they really aren't, Chad thinks he's hilarious and he really isn't.
Posted by monkeybutt
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:56 pm to
What, Chad? A fool?





I agree
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:56 pm to
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Servers aren't doctors, lawyers or CEO's, but to act like you'd put up with that shite for minimum wage is laughable.
this


No server in their right mind is getting paid anywhere around minimum wage and still doing that job. I'm not going to sit here and say being a server is construction worker type work, but it's a hell of a lot more demanding than being the cook in the kitchen. (coming from someone who cooked and served for plenty of years in the past)
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
179886 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:56 pm to
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He's just being a troll. Just like servers think they are worth all those thousands of dollars an hour they make in tips when they really aren't, Chad thinks he's hilarious and he really isn't.


i'm going to start 1099'ing your arse on every tip and we'll see who's fricking funny in the end. bunch of tax evaders.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
23218 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:57 pm to
I honestly don't care wtf a waiter makes. They chose to be in that "profession". Secondly, when a waiter is making a flat $15 an hour, the service, from my experience, has been sub par.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:58 pm to
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but i think its come to waiters just keep expecting more and more and more
Based on what?

I've never heard a waiter tell me they expected more or expect to get tipped post tax.
Posted by Taurus
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Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:58 pm to
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You guys are the ones shitting on servers as peons like you're some special guest everytime you walk into a restaurant.


While I don't shite on servers as peons, but I do expect to be treated like a special guest if they want me/family to come back or recommend them.

I once had the shittiest service ever and I flat out told the waitress she wasn't getting a tip and the reasons why. After the meal of course. Never complain during the meal.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:59 pm to
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You guys are the ones shitting on servers as peons like you're some special guest everytime you walk into a restaurant.


Nah that's just Chad.

Every waiter I personally knew was being compensated handsomely for their efforts, so when people come in bitching about the amount people tip it seems that it is being offset and then some by great tippers in the real world.
Posted by Ryan3232
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Member since Dec 2008
27934 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:59 pm to
What I just asked you before is where is the servers money going to come from if they were put on a decent salary?

Does the owner just pull that extra money out of his arse? No, he would have to increase the prices of the food and drinks to make enough revenue to pay his employees.




Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
179886 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 2:59 pm to
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Nah that's just Chad.




restaurants need consumers more than consumers need restaurants, hence one goes out of business every time you turn around.
Posted by Ryan3232
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/1/16 at 3:00 pm to
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bunch of tax evaders.
yet, you are a tip evader.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71828 posts
Posted on 7/1/16 at 3:00 pm to
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We did not report tips as wages earned


So they had to figure out a way to get you free loaders to pay your fair share.

I assume it was calculated based on some percent of sales that closely resembled that of your tips. I promise you didn't pay income tax on the actual sales.
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