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re: Do school IEPs help or hurt a student in the long term?
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:17 am to northshorebamaman
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:17 am to northshorebamaman
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No. An "IEP diploma" is not really a true high school diploma. It's a certificate that acknowledges that the student has completed his or her IEP goals. They aren't accepted by the military or by most colleges either.
For example, my daughter has an IEP diploma. Her mental growth was stunted severely by a condition she has. Even though it's commonly referred to as a diploma, according to our state it's technically just a certificate of achievement.
there are wide differences in who gets an IEP
i got an IEP because my IQ was over 120 and i was in gifted. my diploma is a normal one
there are also regular students with common LDs who get an IEP to help them graduate with a normal diploma
you're describing the scenario for people with severe LDs. did your daughter also get to go to school until she was 21? that's pretty common also
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Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:20 am to SlowFlowPro
I always wondered what the "slow" in your name was referencing... now I know
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:27 am to terd ferguson
G/T kids get IEPs too dog :coco2:
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:30 am to JabarkusRussell
This is not the correct way to view IEP, even before entering the workforce they need the opportunity for school success and the IEPs are tailored to adjust as you advance. Moreover, many successful people in medicine, law and engineering come through with IEPs. Med school entrance exams as well as advanced medical boards make exceptions for individuals who require it. If those entities do so, I’d have to think it’d be acceptable to lower tier jobs as well...
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:36 am to CharlesLSU
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I’d give anything to not have him on one. Be careful ridiculing something that involves heartache.
I’m not ridiculing at all. In fact, I am often the best and loudest advocate for my students, because their parents aren’t capable of advocating for them. It’s caused me trouble during my career for speaking up and fighting for my students.
However, there are people who are gaming the system that take away from kids who really need my/our help. I’m not ridiculing. It’s a fact.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:38 am to SlowFlowPro
I was G/T... never heard of IEP
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:46 am to terd ferguson
you may not have known about it. i primarily knew about it b/c my mom was a G/T teacher and early every year she was swamped with IEPs (which is why it was understood to contact her for my IEP b/c it would take 5 min tops). i don't know if my friends knew they had IEPs 
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:52 am to terd ferguson
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I was G/T... never heard of IEP
You should have. IEP covered anything that wasnt standard curriculum. I feel like I remember my parents having to review my IEP with my teachers every year for G/T.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:55 am to JabarkusRussell
IEPs go both ways you know?
Gifted and Slower than average.
You need an IEP to get into AP classes and take extra credit course in high school (or you did in my day).
Plus GT was awesome, you could use it as a trump card to leave a class when you wanted and write a BS computer program or work on your music.
Gifted and Slower than average.
You need an IEP to get into AP classes and take extra credit course in high school (or you did in my day).
Plus GT was awesome, you could use it as a trump card to leave a class when you wanted and write a BS computer program or work on your music.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:56 am to KG6
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I feel like I remember my parents having to review my IEP with my teachers every year for G/T.
100%
i know that not because i was G/T, but because my mom was a G/T teacher and she had to do IEPs
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:57 am to KG6
Yes, IEPS had to be reviewed to stay in GT.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 7:58 am to JabarkusRussell
Who cares if you don’t get extra time in the work force? Studies have already shown that the workforce is bigoted towards millennials and needs a major overhaul
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:12 am to Torrence Hatch
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School teaches you nothing about the workforce to begin with.
So true. Why I dont get why the OP says mgrs dont spend extra time teaching their employees. A good mgr is constantly training himself, and his reports. Heck other team members too sometimes.
Also, a good mgr tries to avoid dropping hard deadlines on employees too. If you have one that "needs more time" then give a buffer in case.
In todays world firing an (good person) employee isnt easy. So you have to train up what you end up with.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:16 am to CharlesLSU
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I have one on an IEP.
As do I. I'm thankful for her I.E.P. evaluation and accommodation. We are praying that she can eventually earn her actual diploma and not just a certificate of achievement. But, then again, she is one of the students who needs this program and she's not gaming anything. I'm sure she will be one of the worker bees when she finishes her time in high school (9th grade now). Her ceiling is just too low to be any sort of manager. Low IQ, visual perception disorder, Irlen Syndrome and severe ADHD too. Just as everywhere else in life there are those that will give a program a black eye because they game the system for personal advantage. You just hope the I.E.P. program can accomplish two goals: to get the right kids the help they need to graduate and expose the kids who don't need it to save the resources for others who do. It's a big ask though. We are grateful to the teachers who deal with students like our grand-daughter because most if not all that we've encountered really do try very hard and care for the kids.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:21 am to Techdog89
Every kid with ADD/ADHD gets and IEP with extended time now days. It is so watered down it hurts the kids who truly need help.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:23 am to JabarkusRussell
IEPs can be very important in the early years of a child's education. Think of autistic children who have issues with social development. IEPs can help them with the socialization and other skills needed to transition them from a special ed classroom to a normal classroom setting.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:31 am to JabarkusRussell
IEPs vary wildly in what the actual accomodation is.
As others have said, gifted students get IEPs as well. (Edit: Not IEDs. Oops)
All it means is that the student needs something "different" from the regular plan. The idea that all kids learn the same is stupid anyways.
Is there some abuse of the system? Sure.
As far as in the workforce, there are always accommodations made. There is also, in the workforce, the idea that not everyone is going to do the same thing. Yet, we expect all students to learn/do the same thing.
As others have said, gifted students get IEPs as well. (Edit: Not IEDs. Oops)
All it means is that the student needs something "different" from the regular plan. The idea that all kids learn the same is stupid anyways.
Is there some abuse of the system? Sure.
As far as in the workforce, there are always accommodations made. There is also, in the workforce, the idea that not everyone is going to do the same thing. Yet, we expect all students to learn/do the same thing.
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 8:33 am
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:32 am to LSUFanHouston
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gifted students get IEDs as well.
That typo.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:32 am to GetCocky11
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That typo
LOL.... yeah.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:36 am to LSUFanHouston
IEPs are good in a way and really bad in a way. It's an over complicated system that the majority of parents and teachers don't understand in the first place. Laws and how to do them are constantly changing and a kid with an IEP basically has a get out of jail free card when it comes to getting kicked out of a school for behavior.
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