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re: Do alcoholics get stuck telling the same story multiple time a day?

Posted on 8/16/24 at 8:21 am to
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 8:21 am to
I thought this was going to be about alcoholics telling every person who will listen about their "journey"
Posted by Jebadeb
Member since Oct 2017
5649 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 8:24 am to
When you drink a certain amount, the part of your brain that makes memories shuts down. That is how you black out. If you're in a blacked out state, you won't remember what you said. That's what's happening, I assume.

Once my brother stopped drinking, he said there were months and whole years he could not remember. He was heavily drinking every day.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 8:30 am to
Wernicke-Korsakoff Syndrome aka "Wet Brain"
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 9:00 am
Posted by Bama Bird
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Mar 2013
22569 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 8:40 am to
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I know story tellers that don’t drink and do this…



My mom is one of them. She just forgets who she's told and who she hasn't. It's an extrovert problem I thankfully will never have. But being an alcoholic can definitely cause it as well
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
24763 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 8:51 am to
I am so glad that I finally stopped drinking 5 years ago and the thought of a drop of alcohol today disgusts me
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 8:55 am to
Sounds like he has dementia
Posted by Slidellproud
Madisonville
Member since Mar 2014
441 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 8:56 am to
That would be benzos. I know someone who abuses Xanax and they repeat the same stories, ask the same questions, etc. even with very little to drink.
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 8:58 am to
They'll tell the same story multiple times within 20 minutes
Posted by Boondock Saint
The Boondocks
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 8/16/24 at 9:13 am to
I don't know if this has been mentioned but the memory loss can also be made more severe if the alcoholic is mixing other drugs, especially benzos like Xanax or Valium. These drugs when mixed with alcohol can make someone blackout much quicker and really affect short term memory.

Unfortunately, a lot of alcoholics can get these drugs prescribed to them when mentioning anxiety or trouble sleeping to their doctors. What they don't tell the doctors is that the anxiety and insomnia is probably caused by withdrawal symptoms from the alcohol...
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11091 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 9:23 am to
Thank you all for the comments.
Since you asked, I was born female and remain female and we've been married 30+ years.
The relative discovered weed in high school and has never stopped using.

What made him especially happy was selling something which had been a less that perfect investment.

Why my husband listens: He's afraid the relative will do something really bad to himself because no one else seems to care (or have stopped caring-my take) Also my husband grew up in a typical dysfunctional family and learned to ignore his parents arguments and verbal abuse. He tunes out what he doesn't want to hear. I think he was reading an ebook on his pc through those calls.

That side of the family doesn't seem to have dementia,

The multiple "I'm gonna quit" above is all too familiar.

I don't want to lose this relative because of how it would affect my husband.


Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
18709 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 9:37 am to
I cutoff people like this from my life.
And then get accused of not caring about said family/friend.
Ding ding ding. GTFO with all them bad vibes
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
19280 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:00 am to
I've only known 2 who did that and it was painful listening to them go on and on with stories they've related dozens of times before.

One is now dead, so that issue is closed, but the other I see at least 3-4 times a month and if drinking, he goes over the same old "back in the day" stories EVERYONE has heard more than a few times before.

I'll either walk away or start telling his story for him so he knows I've heard it enough to have practically memorized it word for word------and that usually warrants a change of conversation.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
9551 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 10:00 am to
Liver problems, in this case probably caused by alcoholism, can lead to build up of ammonia in the system. That causes dimentia type symptoms.

quote:

But a crucial tie between liver disease and dementia is what occurs in the brains of about 50% of people with cirrhosis: hepatic encephalopathy. When the liver stops removing toxins and waste from the blood, those bits of trash circulate to the brain. There, toxins like ammonia and manganese have a poisonous effect on brain cells. Once encephalopathy moves from covert to overt, patients can experience an array of changes to their cognition, motor skills, sleep and mood — a profile strikingly similar to that seen in dementia, except it’s reversible.


If your relative can sober up, those symptoms will go away. Unless he has irreversible damage to his liver, in which case he'll need a medical intervention.

I know people that are waiting for a liver transplant that have terrible dimentia because of it. After a round of dialysis, they are much clearer. However, the ammonia levels eventually spike again, and they are back to being in a fog, telling the same stories over and over, not knowing what year it is, or don't even know their own children. It's scary, and most people don't know how much you depend on your liver to keep you alive, and sane.
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 10:12 am
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
7837 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:14 am to
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I will say though the percent of people who completely quit drinking is the same between those who did AA and those who did not. You will find a lot of people hyping AA, but those people already took first steps and were ready to help themselves by being there, etc.



The 12 steps are certainly not for everyone, but I’m pretty sure the rates are significantly higher for AA members. I haven’t read up on it in a while, but that was the case when I did.

Some people just don’t like the 12 steps, but enough people swear by it that I jumped on board. But, I was really just talking about the meetings. My grandfather never did step work, never had a sponsor, but he went to meetings several times a week. This person will probably drink after the meeting, but at least he’d be doing something.

I would say that a person going to just one meeting indicates they do want to stop, even if it’s a tiny, minuscule part of them that wants to stop. But that’s just me. Being around alcoholics who want to quit made everything better when I decided to quit myself. I look at it as kind of like going to church and being as involved as you want to be.
This post was edited on 8/16/24 at 11:21 am
Posted by mthorn2
Planet Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
1520 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:15 am to
Sounds like an alcohol and xanax problem together....have your husband ask him if he knows where to get some xanax. If he "might" you have your answer....
Posted by glassart
Member since Apr 2021
651 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:38 am to
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He tunes out what he doesn't want to hear. I think he was reading an ebook on his pc through those calls.


Translation- he let the man get it off his chest without interrupting him constantly with judgements and useless nagging.

Yes, alcoholics tell that same stupid story over and over again until they drop dead at 97. That’s how they reboot their vital essence by draining the life out of everyone else. You are telling on Tennessee schools because we learned this reading F Scott Fitzgerald at Covington High School. The public school not the private school for gay boys and juvenile delinquents.

Posted by SwampGar
Texas
Member since Jan 2020
1420 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 11:59 am to
It gets better with long term sobriety. I was worried I would be a pickle brain the rest of my life. As long as you are not too far gone, you bounce back. The more you use it, the quicker and more powerfully it returns. I saw improvements at a month, months and years.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
Member since Sep 2014
13079 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 12:06 pm to
I think people tend to relapse more after good news. Him calling may be his way of occupying his mind with something else instead of having the urge to go out and drink.
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
5987 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

we wondered if being an alcoholic affects short term memory


yes very much so. Alcoholics have a very hard time remembering things they have said or done in fine detail or at all from very short periods of time previously. They may not have even necessarily been drunk at the time. it just changes the ability of the brain to hold onto those memories.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35604 posts
Posted on 8/16/24 at 6:40 pm to
Part of the problem was being a lawyer and the lifestyle and stressors. He ultimately got reinstated and went on faculty at Rutgers Law in Newark.
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