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re: Divorce settlement calculators are eye opening - is it really this bad for non-custodial?

Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:18 am to
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19417 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:18 am to
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is it really this bad for non-custodial?
Correction, it’s really that bad for men.
Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
1437 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:19 am to
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it’s really that bad for men.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
7621 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:20 am to
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This is not true. A lot of judges won’t let you waive support.


Yeah you're right, I was thinking alimony
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33974 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:21 am to
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Isn't the presumption that she's also paying $800/month for the 2 kids (since you used the same income for both parents). I've never really factored in how much my kids cost me each month, but I would assume I would save more money if I only had to pay $400 a month per child and only had the kids every other weekend.


Yea, these discussions always have the incorrect idea that if you were still married, the kids would be free and the child support you are paying is extra money that you would otherwise still have.

Now, I think child support is abused in many situations, but the scenario in the OP seems fair - $800 for two kids is a bargain.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34896 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:21 am to
Imagine paying that much for the privilege of traumatizing your kids for life.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73175 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:25 am to
I pay my ex nothing. And she still makes monthly payments on my bed. She moved out and got nothing.
Because she cheated and couldn't afford a lawyer. I can. But it wasn't needed. And I had her pay for the divorce.
Only thing I lost was the 2021 car I got her. But she had to make payments on still. I only paid down payment and first year notes.

Early on she was talking like she would get something. But I had a private eye on her and gave her copies of her call records and vehicle data proving she was cheating. She still denies it but got nothing.
Thigh we never had kids together. That would have changed things.
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Member since Sep 2015
1234 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:26 am to
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Why should it count? It's not his kid.


It's supporting the household. He also doesn't have to marry a woman with children.
Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
1437 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:27 am to
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But I had a private eye on her and gave her copies of her call records and vehicle data proving she was cheating.



in a lot of states that means absolutely nothing
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36379 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:31 am to
I have a cousin who takes home around $5,600/mo and is going through a divorce. He has 2 kids, and his soon to be ex-wife didn't work throughout their marriage. He pays $1,300/mo in child support, and was still paying their mortgage for this year that they've been separated while the divorce is pending. Pretty much half of his income is being given out to his ex during this past year. Luckily, soon he won't have to pay for the mortgage plus her living expenses as he's going to keep the house and he won't owe any alimony, but frick all that
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
10619 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:32 am to
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hope you bros posting about getting divorced are making bank or so damn miserable you can’t help but split. shite is expensive



I got custody so that wasn’t an issue for me
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25882 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:32 am to
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It's supporting the household. He also doesn't have to marry a woman with children.


If she has a roommate do you think that their income should also figure into it?
Posted by Czechessential
Member since Apr 2024
1437 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:32 am to
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have a cousin


that needs a new attorney
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
49146 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:32 am to
If ya wanna be happy for the rest of your life, always make an ugly woman your wife!
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
3803 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:33 am to
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This post was edited on 5/4/25 at 9:59 pm
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13420 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:37 am to
I have bad news for parents of younger children. Kids don’t even get expensive until they get older.

Thankfully, my wife is great and makes my life better and I’m going to live with her until one of us dies. But the kids were relatively cheap until they graduated high school then the real expense starts. We have 3 kids and just for auto insurance on our vehicles which are all over 5 years old and not fancy is $950 a month.

Posted by andwesway
Zachary, LA
Member since Jun 2016
2745 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:38 am to
I have 50/50 joint legal and physical. My daughter lives with me half the time and the other half with her mom. I pay zilch to the ex and she pays none to me. We split everything else 50/50. Why doesn't dad work to get 50/50 joint physical at the beginning?
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 10:41 am
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25882 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:40 am to
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But the kids were relatively cheap until they graduated high school then the real expense starts.


Mine cost me about 1k a month for college (each). That’s with them covering their food expenses and scholarships for tuition. So rent/books/utilities/a little bit because I love them. This is cheaper than dorms and a meal plan. I’m not counting health insurance/car insurance/cell phone. I don’t have to do this but it’s something I promised and want to do for them. 4 years each. Maybe a 5th if I feel like it.
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 10:41 am
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
3088 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:46 am to
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If she has a roommate do you think that their income should also figure into it?

Your roommate is not family. There is no expectation that you will have a shared financial situation other than splitting rent and utilities.

If you marry someone and that someone has kids, you are a step-parent whether you want to be or not. It’s ridiculous to not consider the step-parent’s income, and it’s obviously contributing to the complete brokenness of the system. It needs to be fixed.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25882 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:50 am to
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If you marry someone and that someone has kids, you are a step-parent whether you want to be or not. It’s ridiculous to not consider the step-parent’s income, and it’s obviously contributing to the complete brokenness of the system. It needs to be fixed.


Should they also consider the non custodial parent’s new spouse when calculating it?

Being a step parent doesn’t relieve the biological parent of any part of their responsibility.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 10:53 am to
There is a reason there 1,000 murder podcasts and a couple 24-hour channels that carry nothing but murder/forensic shows.

They have created a situation where many feel like killing their spouse is the only option. It's fricked up and should be fixed.
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