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re: Disney accused of 'whitewashing' its 'troubling past' for omitting 'Song of the South'

Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:31 pm to
i wonder how much quality entertainment we have missed out because people were afraid it might upset 1% of the population
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

Entertainment made during certain periods show things that were appropriate for that period.


Exactly, I don’t understand why this concept is so hard to grasp.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:35 pm to
I try not to think of lost opportunities as much as gems from the past swept under the rug because they are considered embarrassing by some.


My go-to example for this is Blazing Saddles, which was explicitly a movie to take the piss out of racism.

People like to bring up A Million Ways To Die In The West as a modern counterpart but a halfassed Seth McFarlane remembered by few doesn’t match Saddles’ performance as a top 5 grossing film of its release year.
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
15200 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:36 pm to
Thats the first theatrical movie I saw as a child.

Disney needs to say "go frick yourself" in so many words and release that on BR-D.

There are plenty of films with questionable themes from previous generations.
What about GWtW?

Damned pansies.
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 12:41 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
58222 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:37 pm to
Thing is, the movie is never clear if its during slave times or not. Uncle Remus leaves and comes back on his own free will, he's not sold off or anything like that.

of course, sharecropping wasn't too far removed from slavery but its not clear if its before or after the civil war - and I haven't read his stories.

I always thought the story of a white boy looking up to a black man, having affection for him, and learning life's lessons from him was not racist.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
7625 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:41 pm to
I bet someone could get Splash Mountain closed or rethemed with a targeted Twitter movement. Disney needs to grow a pair.
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 12:42 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:43 pm to
If it gets closed, where will chicks whip their tits out at a Disney park?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:46 pm to
Damned if you do and damned if you don’t.

Honk honk

Clown world
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22476 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 12:51 pm to
Uncle Remus was wise as hell, and the most sympathetic character in the movie. The white kids adored him. The eye dialect is exaggerated. Stereotype? Yep. Racist? Nah.

Instead, let's all pretend former slaves didn't work on plantations in Georgia. They really spoke with the Mid-Atlantic accent, similar to Theodore Roosevelt and Katherine Hepburn.
Posted by agdoctor
Louisiana
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:30 pm to
I bought in at $29 a share. I don’t care
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:40 pm to
Tried to buy that video for my kids during the 1980s.Found out Disney had locked it away.
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
15200 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

Tried to buy that video for my kids during the 1980s.Found out Disney had locked it away.


I think SOtS came out on LD at some point in the 90's but it may not have been in NTSC. Probably an outside market that's not full of pansies that are easily offended.

Yep here we go:
SOtS LD releases
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 1:58 pm
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
15200 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:01 pm to
I can't believe Splash Mountain has any references to SOtS but it does.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134661 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:13 pm to
In brave, they had Scottish accents. In Pocahontas they had Indian accents. Sword in the stone they had English accents. Coco had Hispanic accents.


Why wouldn’t blacks from S Carolina have natural accents? Have they never heard people talk in that region?


There was a reason the tales of uncle Remus were written in that vernacular. Because that’s how they talked
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:41 pm to
This is a real "damned if they do, damned if they don't" situation.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41099 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:47 pm to
Of those movies/scenes, the Siamese cats in Lady and the Tramp is by far, by far, the worst.

I still struggle with how we can't let Song of the South out of The Vault, but we have have an entire ride as Magic Kingdom based on the ride.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17753 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

Jim Crow scene in 1941’s Dumbo will be edited out

Oh frick that. And I bet they left in the Pink Elephants on Parade scene where Dumbo and Timothy get drunk and hallucinate.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 3:38 pm to
You can't win with leftist.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
44932 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 3:54 pm to
Disney will edit those things out but has no problem with racism against Native Americans. This song in Peter Pan is a hell of a lot worse.

quote:

What Makes the Redman Red?

Why does he ask you, "How?"
Why does he ask you, "How?"
Once the Injun didn't know
All the things that he know now
But the Injun, he sure learn a lot
And it's all from asking, "How?"

When did he first say, "Ugh!"
When did he first say, "Ugh!"
In the Injun book it say
When the first brave married squaw
He gave out with a big ugh
When he saw his Mother-in-Law

What made the red man red?
What made the red man red?
Let's go back a million years
To the very first Injun prince
He kissed a maid and start to blush
And we've all been blushin' since

You've got it from the headman
The real true story of the red man
No matter what's been written or said
Now you know why the red man's red!






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