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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:41 am to
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:41 am to
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Ah, so you're a better expert than this pathologist and the mayo clinic.

We've got ourselves a fricking genius here fellas.



You don’t have to be a genius to realize that having a heavier heart and thickened muscular walls are caused by obesity and is a disease process which leads to decrease ventricular filling and increases risk of ischemia by forcing the coronary artery system to supply blood to a larger amount of myocardium.

These studies are basically fat acceptance on a pathology level.

This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 10:43 am
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:41 am to
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Because the drug dealer commits homicide when their drugs kill someone per Minnesota statute, which is something you’ve ignored this entire thread.



the drug dealer was subduing and restraining GF?
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15922 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:42 am to
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want my credit and I want it now


Oldmanbeasley is hearby granted the credit of bringing to our attention the tailpipe killa.
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5741 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:42 am to
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Still seems like a bad idea in a case like this when the jury isn’t sequestered unless he thinks the chance is higher than average


It probably would be malpractice to not make the motion.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:43 am to
Read what I said again.

The law in Minnesota states if someone dies as a result of illicit drugs, the drug dealer has committed homicide.

Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:43 am to
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The lies roll out of your mouth so naturally lol. You sure you're not a politician because every time you are called out you always use the " you take my words out of context" and " you're misrepresenting me" No bitch we're just using your own words against you.




none of what I said is a lie. please quote a whole post of mine where I said he is guilty of murder or that the drugs played absolutely no role. I bet you cant because I always conceded they didnt help. its hard to keep arguments straight when you're busy making up some random gender pronouns.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8632 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:44 am to
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Nobody knew if the engine was on or off or if the electric motor was running.




Even at that, Chauvin would have been close to passing out from the exhaust as well. Since hot gases rise, and he being a foot or more above where GF head was, he would have had more exposure to the exhaust than GF would have.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
11182 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:44 am to
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Oldmanbeasley is hearby granted the credit of bringing to our attention the tailpipe killa.


Posted by Baron
Member since Dec 2014
1880 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:44 am to
Well when you speak that hyperbolically, and then now say that you think the “drugs weren’t lethal but didn’t help his situation” it sounds like you are flip-flopping
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15922 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:45 am to
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drug dealer was subduing and restraining GF?


Well Fentynal does subdue you and restrains you from breathing so yes.

If your premise is that Chauvin restraining Floyd contributed to his death then you should also want Hall, the drug dealer, to be held accountable for giving the drugs that also contributed to his death.
Posted by Stan Switek
Member since Apr 2017
475 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:45 am to
The defense witness offered into testimony guidelines for filling out death certificates that included the following paragraph:

Deaths due to positional restraint induced by law enforcement personnel or to choke holds or other measures to subdue may be classified as Homicide. In such cases, there may not be intent to kill, but the death results from one or more intentional, volitional, potentially harmful acts directed at the decedent (without consent, of course).
Further, there is some value to the homicide classification toward reducing the public perception that a “cover up” is being perpetrated by the death investigation agency.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:46 am to
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Read what I said again.
The law in Minnesota states if someone dies as a result of illicit drugs, the drug dealer has committed homicide.



I read it just fine, it still doesnt make sense because that would be homicide caused by overdose, not subdual and restraint. Your erroneous position is contrary to every pathologist, expert, each testimony, and the video evidence.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109490 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:47 am to
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Well when you speak that hyperbolically, and then now say that you think the “drugs weren’t lethal but didn’t help his situation” it sounds like you are flip-flopping



AMS has a hard time admitting when she is wrong, which confirms her status as a female.
Posted by jaytothen
Member since Jan 2020
8725 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:47 am to
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the drug dealer was subduing and restraining GF?


Holy frick dude, if drugs killed St. Floyd, then the dealer could be charged. And St. Floyd had lethal amounts of drugs in his system. That's the point he was making.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:47 am to
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The defense witness offered into testimony guidelines for filling out death certificates that included the following paragraph:

Deaths due to positional restraint induced by law enforcement personnel or to choke holds or other measures to subdue may be classified as Homicide. In such cases, there may not be intent to kill, but the death results from one or more intentional, volitional, potentially harmful acts directed at the decedent (without consent, of course).
Further, there is some value to the homicide classification toward reducing the public perception that a “cover up” is being perpetrated by the death investigation agency.



yea he posted a paragraph. I can bold a portion too.
Posted by Stan Switek
Member since Apr 2017
475 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:49 am to
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yea he posted a paragraph. I can bold a portion too.


I only bolded it because the witness did. Are you not watching the trial?
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109490 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:49 am to
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yea he posted a paragraph. I can bold a portion too.



Just let your anger out and don't keep it pent up.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:50 am to
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Well when you speak that hyperbolically, and then now say that you think the “drugs weren’t lethal but didn’t help his situation” it sounds like you are flip-flopping


I agree that was hyperbolic. but I have always conceded that they didnt help, its not some new position. I probably even conceded that in the same post you refer to.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:50 am to
Did he just say that adrenaline decreases coronary artery flow?
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15922 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:50 am to
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none of what I said is a lie. please quote a whole post of mine


Last time I'm having anything to do with you. 90% on here have discussed the testimonials of the witnesses and have changed our stance even if just slightly. Your only purpose on here is to argue no matter what stance you have have to take because you know you will change it later and deny.

I made a post yesterday using your own quotes showing you were a liar and you claimed u didn't say it so I've already proved it.

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