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Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:25 am to AMS
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bet you cant link me saying he is guilty of murder, other than it being on the table. I bet you'll just ignore the fact I never said that though.
So you arguing against every post saying it wasnt murder isn't enough evidence. You clearly argued the drugs had nothing to do with his death and the levels were too low yet we know now, without doubt, you were wrong.
So do you agree that Floyd had at least part responsibility for his death.
Do you now agree that drugs and heart disease did play a active part in Floyds death?
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:27 am to Yellerhammer5
Ah, so you're a better expert than this pathologist and the mayo clinic.
We've got ourselves a fricking genius here fellas.
We've got ourselves a fricking genius here fellas.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:27 am to AMS
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~95th percentile which is high end normal range
Heart size statistics must work differently than most other statistics when setting ranges. In my work I consider that well above average.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:28 am to SOSFAN
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This witness is very good. Explains in full detail where anyone understands.
He just explained that Floyds death certificate does show that heart disease, Fentynal and meth did contribute to his death.
I didnt think anyone was confused by this... people are confused by the fact that those factors were not directly related to the death although did contribute and were less significant than the homicide. even this pathologist said this.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 10:33 am
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:29 am to Baron
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What happens during jury deliberation if they ask who the guy is that was with GF and the ex in the car at the time of cops arriving? How would the court handle that? Surely they can't just say "oh well you don't need to know anything about that person". Can someone explain that
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The judge would tell them that they need to base their decision by considering only the evidence presented during the trial. So basically, yes they would just say “you don’t need to know about him.”
Pretty sure that guy has been identified, he just wont have to testify. They will also bring him up in closing arguments and the jury can talk about him all they want in deliberations. There are very few rules in deliberations
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:30 am to AMS
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he also said it was ~95th percentile which is high end normal range
I think the other studies are better, and they list his heart as enlarged. Honestly, anything above 500 grams in a well trimmed heart is too much for the general population.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:31 am to SOSFAN
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Well it was mentioned on here and I can't believe I'm doing this but credit goes out to Geekboy.
It was mentioned during the states portion. It’s a hybrid car. Nobody knew if the engine was on or off or if the electric motor was running.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:31 am to PsychTiger
So 70-75% of artery blockage can cause sudden death and Floyd had 90%.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:32 am to SOSFAN
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So you arguing against every post saying it wasnt murder isn't enough evidence. You clearly argued the drugs had nothing to do with his death and the levels were too low yet we know now, without doubt, you were wrong.
I clearly argued they were less important than the subdual and restraint. you clearly misrepresented my arguement. his drug levels were not lethal, but didnt help his situation.
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Do you now agree that drugs and heart disease did play a active part in Floyds death?
I never disagreed with this in a way, but I wouldnt say active Id say indirect. just that those factors were less important than the direct cause, the homicide portion. you just keep conflating murder with homicide when it comes to things Ive said, because ive always used homicide.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 10:35 am
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:33 am to Rebel
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was mentioned during the states portion. It’s a hybrid car. Nobody knew if the engine was on or off or if the electric motor was running.
Awesome! I hearby withdraw my apology to Geekboy.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:34 am to AMS
quote:They obviously were.
his drug levels were not lethal,
quote:Him getting himself worked up over being arrested because he was so high is the direct cause. He dies whether he's on the ground or not once he starts losing his mind. It may have even happened faster if he wasn't allowed to lie down per his request.
just that those factors were less important than the direct cause
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:35 am to SOSFAN
Nelson asked one of the witnesses, “you’re not a car mechanic?, right?”
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:36 am to AMS
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you clearly misrepresented my arguement. his drug levels were not lethal, but didnt help his situation.
Forgive me if I’m wrong, but didn’t you say that the levels were so low that if an anesthesiologist gave him that much he would be basically unaffected and “he would sit up on the table.” ?
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:37 am to AMS
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his drug levels were not lethal
Why has every doctor that has testified said he had lethal levels of fentanyl?
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:38 am to Baron
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Forgive me if I’m wrong, but didn’t you say that the levels were so low that if an anesthesiologist gave him that much he would be basically unaffected and “he would sit up on the table.” ?
I did say something like that, but if you tried to do surgery on someone with only 11ng fentanyl onboard they would get off the table and slap you. I still agree with that statement. they use 10-20ng fentanyl level added to a benzo and the heavier lifter propofol. so 11ng fentanyl alone would be unacceptable for a surgery
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 10:41 am
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:38 am to Rebel
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Why has every doctor that has testified said he had lethal levels of fentanyl?
why did none of them determine accidental death instead of homicide?
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:39 am to AMS
Because the drug dealer commits homicide when their drugs kill someone per Minnesota statute, which is something you’ve ignored this entire thread.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:40 am to SOSFAN
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Well it was mentioned on here and I can't believe I'm doing this but credit goes out to Geekboy. He did post that the exhaust could have played a part.
I actually posted it way before him. It was mentioned on a feed I was watching when a witness was being questioned about the police vehicle. I want my credit and I want it now
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:40 am to AMS
The lies roll out of your mouth so naturally lol.
You sure you're not a politician because every time you are called out you always use the " you take my words out of context" and " you're misrepresenting me" No bitch we're just using your own words against you.
You sure you're not a politician because every time you are called out you always use the " you take my words out of context" and " you're misrepresenting me" No bitch we're just using your own words against you.
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