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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:05 am to
Posted by BearCrocs
Member since Aug 2013
8531 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:05 am to
Is he forced to testify?
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15922 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:08 am to
Hall taking the 5th and does not have to testify per Judge.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109490 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:20 am to
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Hall is there today? Interesting



Read that as Hail at first, and then wondered why HHTM would have to testify.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:33 am to
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I’m spitballing here but why would a defense attorney motion for this if the chances were slim?



Typically done out of presence of jury. Don't know MN criminal procedure, but he many need to make the motion to preserve certain arguments for appeal.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 9:38 am
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
7171 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:38 am to
This is bullshite. Doesnt have to answer questions because he could be liable for the death..how does that evidence not matter in this case?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104374 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:43 am to
Isn’t the danger of the 5th that you can’t selectively invoke it?

Someone could now be called who could point the finger at Hall and they can’t refute it.

Shouldn’t be hard to prove Hall is a drug dealer and, more specifically, GF’s dealer given his girlfriend’s testimony.
Posted by Wiseguy
Member since Mar 2020
4073 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:45 am to
Does the jury know that he was not compelled to testify? If not could the defense attorney slip that tidbit into his closing. “What you didn’t get to hear was testimony about Mr Floyd’s drug use immediately prior to his arrest because the witness was afraid of potentially incriminating himself in Mr Floyd’s death.”
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 9:46 am
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15922 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:51 am to
I have a feeling this witness on the stand is going to make or break Nelson's case.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147226 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:53 am to
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I have a feeling this witness on the stand is going to make or break Nelson's case.

who is it? what's the role?
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15922 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:54 am to
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Someone could now be called who could point the finger at Hall and they can’t refute it.


The only other person that was with both Hall and Floyd already testified so no one with direct knowledge could point a finger now.

Hall knew if Chauvin walked he was gonna go down.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15922 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:58 am to
He is a forensic pathologist that holds multiple degrees , has trained other pathologist and taught at Universitys and the FBI. He is part of a council that includes pathologist, behavioral pathology, toxicology and Emergency room technicians. They do peer reviews and 13 of them reviewed this case. This guy comes across as one of the top in his field. If he disputes the method of death it will carry not just his weight but also the other 12 experts.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 10:00 am
Posted by Gnar Cat21
Piña Coladaburg
Member since Sep 2009
17144 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:00 am to
I'm sure this witness will be critical to the defense, but his voice is making me want to go to sleep
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15922 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:01 am to
Nelson, on purpose, has spent the last 15 minutes having the witness testify to his background and explain, in detail, the work required and the reasoning. This is the witness we have all been waiting on.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23013 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:02 am to
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I'm sure this witness will be critical to the defense, but his voice is making me want to go to sleep


I am in a meeting so I only have it on mute in the background but I have to say that he doesn't look quite as put together (for lack of a better way to say it) as the State's Irish guy. Sadly, I think that matters when the jury weighs the two testimonies.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15922 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:03 am to
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sure this witness will be critical to the defense, but his voice is making me want to go to sleep


it is kinda boring but when he does give his opinion the jury will take notice because of this testimony.
Posted by wileyjones
Member since May 2014
2720 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:05 am to
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he doesn't look quite as put together (for lack of a better way to say it) as the State's Irish guy


for what it's worth I'm on the edge of my seat listening to this guy, he's extremely well-spoken and has a knack for explaining things
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15922 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:08 am to
This witness is very good. Explains in full detail where anyone understands.

He just explained that Floyds death certificate does show that heart disease, Fentynal and meth did contribute to his death.
Posted by bikerack
NH
Member since Sep 2011
2564 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:09 am to
Good point about carbon monoxide issues b/c GF was near the exhaust. Hadn't heard that anywhere else.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23013 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:10 am to
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for what it's worth I'm on the edge of my seat listening to this guy, he's extremely well-spoken and has a knack for explaining things


Thanks.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15922 posts
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:10 am to
The Court Tv melt after this witness is going to be one for the ages. I'm sure the media talking heads are already tearing shite up .
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