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re: Derek Chauvin trial - GUILTY ON ALL CHARGES. Update: His sentencing is today

Posted on 4/1/21 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by K E V 8 4
Member since Jul 2010
626 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 2:58 pm to
You seem to be obsessed with
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anal
More so than DC's scribbling. I'm listening....go ahead and pour out your innermost disgusting thoughts and desires
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 2:59 pm to
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So face contusions lead to asphyxia? You learn something new everyday.
I wonder why more boxers and MMA fighters don't die of asphyxia after being punched in the face for several dozen minutes.



why twist my words so much? I said the history of events, pattern of abrasions, contusions, other exam findings, are signs consistent with positional and restrictive asphyxiation.

which is nothing at all like saying abrasions lead to asphyxia.
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 3:03 pm
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15860 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 3:00 pm to
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pretty funny watching the Court TV crew just completely shite


This morning after the girlfriend testified court tv was priceless. The shocked looks, lowered voices and completely lost to the point they appeared to be backing Chauvin.

lol now 5 hours later they are calling it a powerful testimony but only showing the emotional part.
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 3:02 pm
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6966 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 3:00 pm to
Peace out everyone! headed out. I may be watching but not posting til Monday. Everyone have a great Easter!!

Edit.. I hope the dick measuring contest is over by then..
This post was edited on 4/1/21 at 3:01 pm
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15860 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 3:02 pm to
Have a safe holiday weekend.
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2650 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 3:04 pm to
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why twist my words so much? I said the history of events, pattern of abrasions and contusions, are signs consistent with positional and restrictive asphyxiation.

which is nothing at all like saying abrasions lead to asphyxia.
I asked you for evidence of the asphyxia that the ME didn't find, and you cited face contusions as that evidence.

So where in the report does it explain - beyond the normal bumps and bruises that come from fighting the police - that he was asphyxiated?
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56554 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 3:05 pm to
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why twist my words so much? I said the history of events, pattern of abrasions, contusions, other exam findings, are signs consistent with positional and restrictive asphyxiation.

which is nothing at all like saying abrasions lead to asphyxia


But you claim he was choked by the knee...so you have implied the above the your repeated talking point
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15860 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 3:06 pm to
Wow Court TV just admitted that the girlfriend was a good witness for the defense.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46208 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 3:08 pm to
Did they choke while saying it?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143854 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 3:09 pm to
The mental gymnastics the HLN panel is going through to validate the testimony is amazing.

No wonder poor ol AMS and Geekboy remain so confused.
Posted by BradBallard
Wilmington, Delaware
Member since Jun 2020
567 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 3:09 pm to
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It's pretty funny watching the Court TV crew just completely shite all over themselves in these breaks. They have already convicted Chauvin 100%.


Exactly. None of these witnesses are experts - they are just establishing the timeline of events and what happened. Which, is not much different than what was already known before the trial.

The real meat of the trial will be:
- expert testimony on the autopsy
- expert testimony on the toxicology reports and their contribution to his death
- expert testimony on procedures and whether they were followed

Basically, did the knee or the drugs kill him, and, did Chauvin act in a manner according to his training?

Neither of these questions have been addressed by any of the witnesses.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143854 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 3:12 pm to
The girlfriend was a horrible witness for the prosecution.

She said Floyd was acting like he usually does when he OD’s.
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5732 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 3:12 pm to
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In lay terms


Correck
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
16268 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 3:12 pm to
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post pics of yourself


Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24078 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 3:13 pm to
This guy recently retired from MPD. Can't possibly imagine why
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5732 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 3:14 pm to
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Nelson should establish his fighting record


If it is better than 5-6 can he rebut the other experts testimony
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 3:15 pm to
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So where in the report does it explain - beyond the normal bumps and bruises that come from fighting the police - that he was asphyxiated?



thats the top part stating cardiopulmonary arrest complicating subdual and restraint. As in he was subdued and restrained to the point of death. he was asphyxiated to death. take your pick on wording, it all means the same thing.

there is no mention of nor exam findings supporting an MI, OD, stroke, combustion etc. The report describes the history and exam findings consistent with asphyxiation and not the others for a reason.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
21927 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 3:17 pm to
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not sequestered at this point. Judge tells them to stay of the news and do what they can not to discuss the case. Pretty weak..


Yikes. You have to imagine the majority are probably checking out the news almost daily.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 3:18 pm to
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MI, OD, stroke


None of these would necessarily have autopsy findings in an acute presentation (ischemic stroke at least versus a hemorrhagic stroke, that would have hemorrhage).

He did have cardiomegaly and CAD, which would make him more predisposed to death from both overdose as well as asphyxia.
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2650 posts
Posted on 4/1/21 at 3:19 pm to
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As in he was subdued and restrained to the point of death
Right. But how?

In other words, if you excluded that phrase from the report, what else is in the report to back up that claim?
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