re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case

bonds fit, the original charges.

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You have no idea if they actually had consensual drunk sex, or if they raped her. I understand what the law says, but that doesn't mean she still didn't give consent.

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They should have made sure she made it home safe or anywhere safe including with people she knew and then she could clear things up.

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I do have a problem with this mindset that just b/c someone is legally drunk that if they have sex with someone it's automatically rape

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I think debate on this is lacking a clear refinement or definition on what’s actually being debated. In my view being legally drunk (like as in going above DUI or public intoxication levels) doesn’t automatically equate to being legally incapable of understanding and consenting, but I also don’t think that just not passed out & still able to say the word yes equates to legal consent.

It is hard to describe when someone has become too drunk to consent, but I know it when I see it. Having to judge after the fact I go by actions noted by different sources and by alcohol levels in victim - higher the levels the more likely person becomes incapable and also would have been seen by others as obviously incapable of true consent. Her level was extremely high. The suspects’ descriptions of her actions seem to come closer to matching her tested alcohol levels than matching someone who is just over DUI levels and shouldn’t drive but can still understand what’s happening to her or him.

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I had the identity wrong until I saw the bonds being set. The 28 year old driver is black and is the uncle - so he'd be difficult to 'flip' for that reason.

The 18 y.o. was in the back and was there but didn't 'rape.' Not sure if he made the video.

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Man, you need to read the affidavit. You keep mixing up key facts.

The 28yr old uncle and the white guy were in the front seats. The two rapists were in the back seat with Madison.

From the affidavit in first post:

"The co-defendant stated he asked the victim for her address, but she fell over and could not answer him."

So he drove over two minutes away to Jennifer Jean Drive so his buddies could have sex with her?

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I just watched the accused persons attorney. They are saying the victim did this and made suggestive statements to the accused persons. How convenient it is for their version to be stated but the victim cannot dispute what they say happened. They can say anything with impunity because the only person who can say that is not true is dead.

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Sucks for him his clients already stated the girl couldn’t speak or stand up and they asked her multiple (5+) times each to have sex with no response

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They can say anything with impunity because the only person who can say that is not true is dead.

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Their major hurdle is the fact that their words cant overcome her extreme BAC (and the law regarding rape). It sucks that she was killed, but the fact that she was killed is the only reason these assholes are facing justice.

A comment on facebook said that Washington had faced a similar charge before but case was dropped.

Drunk girl at bar. Has to tell family and friends what happened. Cross examination. Media.

Probably true that unless she was killed there probably wouldn't have been a prosecution here.

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Quite the leap there

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Where’s the leap?

Good point.

Say she is on video 'consenting' - being raped and the family knows that'll be played at the trial.

Get them to cave and take some weak plea deal. Harsh but sounds accurate.