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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case
Posted on 2/14/23 at 11:56 am to JDPndahizzy
Posted on 2/14/23 at 11:56 am to JDPndahizzy
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If they are indicted by the grand jury this week, that will tell us a lot about all of the evidence.
or about who winds up on a grand jury in EBR...
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Posted on 2/14/23 at 11:58 am to HodsonTiger13
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The perps should be charged with first degree rape and manslaughter.
That's what I don't agree with. The state-of-mind just wasn't there for the perpetrators, particularly for the first degree rape charge. Having sex with a drunk woman because she challenged your masculinity is just not that crime.
Manslaughter seems more reasonable to me, but I am not aware that there's any minimum mandatory penalty for manslaughter in Louisiana. And it's not a slam dunk anyway. There are too many similar situations, where a drunk person is expelled for being drunk and it's clearly not criminal, that a defense attorney would point at.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:06 pm to JDPndahizzy
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If they are indicted by the grand jury this week, that will tell us a lot about all of the evidence.
You nailed it. Either way.
I don't know about that. Grand juries indict most of the time. Failing to indict is more telling.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:15 pm to JudgeHolden
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Well, dammit. My reading comprehension is for shite today. You are absolutely right.
I only knew that from McCoy.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:20 pm to Porpus
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There are too many similar situations, where a drunk person is expelled for being drunk and it's clearly not criminal, that a defense attorney would point at.
So after they raped her they kicked her out of the vehicle for being drunk?
How is that comparable to a restaurant or sport event kicking out an unruly person?
He (Driver - Casen) kicked her out because he felt insulted, according to the video the defense lawyers just gave us. Get out get out of the vehicle.
"Seconds later" - according to her family attorney - she's run over.
You have some responsibility for people you let ride in your car not to dump them out on a dangerous roadway, right?
If someone is .319 drunk, they CANNOT CONSENT to sex. That's what the law says.
Not sure why that is so hard for folks to understand.
Judge and others: Thanks for informing me about the grand jury process. I'm here LEARNING. Appreciate y'all.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:23 pm to HodsonTiger13
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He (Driver - Casen) kicked her out because he felt insulted, according to the video the defense lawyers just gave us.
I am just not getting that from the video released. What am I missing?
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:26 pm to HodsonTiger13
THIRD CHARGE:
BATON ROUGE - An 18-year-old accused of raping LSU student Madison Brooks after a night of drinking in Tigerland is facing his third arrest in the span of a month over similar allegations.
According to arrest documents from the Baton Rouge Police Department, Kaivon Washington now faces an additional charge of first-degree rape after a sexual assault that happened October 2022.
Police noted the victim came forward Jan. 25, 2023, days after Washington's arrest in the Madison Brooks case.
The documents allege the assault happened after the victim got drunk at Reggie's bar in Tigerland and ended up at a male acquaintance's home along with Washington. She told police she was having sex with that person, identified as Karson Jones, while Washington was present. When Jones got more aggressive, she says she tried to get the him off her, but Jones reportedly pinned her down and refused to stop.
While that was happening, Washington allegedly came closer and started grabbing the victim's breast and genitalia.
The victim reportedly showed officers texts where Washington apologized for taking part, but Washington claimed he was pulled in by Jones. Investigators interviewed Washington this week, and they say he admitted that he walked over to the bed while the other two were having sex.
Jones was booked Friday for first-degree rape. Washington is still jailed in Livingston Parish on separate charges.
LINK
BATON ROUGE - An 18-year-old accused of raping LSU student Madison Brooks after a night of drinking in Tigerland is facing his third arrest in the span of a month over similar allegations.
According to arrest documents from the Baton Rouge Police Department, Kaivon Washington now faces an additional charge of first-degree rape after a sexual assault that happened October 2022.
Police noted the victim came forward Jan. 25, 2023, days after Washington's arrest in the Madison Brooks case.
The documents allege the assault happened after the victim got drunk at Reggie's bar in Tigerland and ended up at a male acquaintance's home along with Washington. She told police she was having sex with that person, identified as Karson Jones, while Washington was present. When Jones got more aggressive, she says she tried to get the him off her, but Jones reportedly pinned her down and refused to stop.
While that was happening, Washington allegedly came closer and started grabbing the victim's breast and genitalia.
The victim reportedly showed officers texts where Washington apologized for taking part, but Washington claimed he was pulled in by Jones. Investigators interviewed Washington this week, and they say he admitted that he walked over to the bed while the other two were having sex.
Jones was booked Friday for first-degree rape. Washington is still jailed in Livingston Parish on separate charges.
LINK
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:30 pm to JudgeHolden
Judge,
Go back and watch.
Go to 55 seconds in you can hear Casen say "yes, take her out."
Crank it all the way up as Madison repeats what he says.
She says 'get out get out.'
LINK
Go back and watch.
Go to 55 seconds in you can hear Casen say "yes, take her out."
Crank it all the way up as Madison repeats what he says.
She says 'get out get out.'
LINK
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:30 pm to HodsonTiger13
Wow. That’s quite an update.
This dude needs to be nailed to wall of a jail cell.
This dude needs to be nailed to wall of a jail cell.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:31 pm to HodsonTiger13
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The documents allege the assault happened after the victim got drunk at Reggie's bar in Tigerland and ended up at a male acquaintance's home along with Washington.
Oh boy
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:33 pm to HodsonTiger13
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Go to 55 seconds in you can hear Casen say "yes, take her out."
Crank it all the way up as Madison repeats what he says.
She says 'get out get out.'
I am so curious about the actual sequence of events.
This post was edited on 2/14/23 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:36 pm to DVA Tailgater
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The documents allege the assault happened after the victim got drunk at Reggie's bar in Tigerland and ended up at a male acquaintance's home along with Washington.
Judge,
Can this be brought up in Madison's case?
Seems part of a criminal pattern...
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:40 pm to HodsonTiger13
I think she’s asking the dude next to her to get out so she can get out.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:42 pm to whoa
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I think she’s asking the dude next to her to get out so she can get out.
Yep. She's absolutely telling the male to her right to "get out" so she can exit the vehicle.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:44 pm to whoa
The audio and video don't quite match for me but I am hearing the following:
Madison: I'm sorry I offended you ...
Casen: Yes, guys take her out
Madison: Get out, get out.
Then AS SHE IS LOOKING AWAY they (lawyers? perps?) have audio edited into the video where Madison mentions "Ubering."
The audio quality doesn't match as she's looking away and it... just watch it over and over.
Whole thing was cooked for sure.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:47 pm to mikelbr
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Yep. She's absolutely telling the male to her right to "get out" so she can exit the vehicle.
Or is she repeating what Casen told her before the video we see, "Get out, get out!" ??
We'd have to see the full unedited video to know.
But adding in audio, selective editing, releasing it all to the public to interfere with the proper administration of justice?
Seems like a no-no by the lawyers - trying the case in the media.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:50 pm to HodsonTiger13
the ONLY parts of the videos from the defendant's phones we will see before trial are edited clips favorable to the defense in the court of public opinion
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:51 pm to DVA Tailgater
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I am so curious about the actual sequence of events.
And so am I. There are multiple stories, legal layers but there is one timeline that passes through Burbank around 2:50 AM.
The reporter needs to have a foot up his wazoo for not including the times of the snippets.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:52 pm to HodsonTiger13
Oh wow.
Washington's lawyers have responded (see WBRZ story).
Washington's attorneys released the following statement Tuesday.
Washington's lawyers have responded (see WBRZ story).
Washington's attorneys released the following statement Tuesday.
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“Our offices were just made aware of additional allegations against Mr. Washington. We are in the process of investigating this matter. However, there are several concerns with the most recent charge. First, like the matter in Livingston, the “follow-up” investigation took place on or about 1/25/23. Secondly, the date of incident on Mr. Washington’s warrant is different from his co-defendant. Third, in the warrant for his co-defendant it does not mention anything regarding intoxication. It states the victim was having consensual sex with his co-defendant in the presence of Mr. Washington. Finally, the victim never accused Mr. Washington of having sexual intercourse with her, thus we are curious as to why he was charged with rape.”
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:55 pm to HodsonTiger13
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WBRZ
Is compromised
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