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re: Deputies arrest 4 in LSU student Madison Brooks case
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:57 pm to HodsonTiger13
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:57 pm to HodsonTiger13
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Judge,
Can this be brought up in Madison's case?
Seems part of a criminal pattern...
Generally I would say no, unless he had been convicted and took the stand in the Brooks case. But this may be close enough in fact pattern to fit under 404(b). All I can say now is that it will not clearly come in.
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Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:59 pm to HodsonTiger13
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Finally, the victim never accused Mr. Washington of having sexual intercourse with her, thus we are curious as to why he was charged with rape.”
I had that same question.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 1:02 pm to JudgeHolden
Picking up drunk girls and raping them or assisting likely a bit too generic to fit.
Interesting this came out day before the grand jury.
WAFB doesn't have it yet - the 3rd rape story.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 1:08 pm to JudgeHolden
Go to 57 seconds and listen in the background
“Guys, guys take her out, guys take her out”
LINK
“Guys, guys take her out, guys take her out”
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This post was edited on 2/14/23 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 2/14/23 at 1:08 pm to JudgeHolden
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Louisiana R.S. 14:24 Principals
All persons concerned in the commission of a crime, whether present or absent, and whether they directly commit the act constituting the offense, aid and abet in its commission, or directly or indirectly counsel or procure another to commit the crime, are principals.
Holding her down while she's raped would seem to make him a principal instead.
Hmmm.
I seem to recall the third offense we were expecting was actually in Walker, Louisiana and also involved a minor.
So there still may be a 4th charge coming for Washington.
I think Casen has already cut a deal and will be testifying against the rest tomorrow.
Since we know the defendants aren't usually there, look for him and Mr. Long to be videoed walking out of the courthouse.
1. 4th charge in LP
2. Casen flips at grand jury tomorrow
Those are my predictions.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 1:11 pm to HodsonTiger13
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B. For purposes of Paragraph (5), "participate" shall mean:
(1) Commit the act of rape.
(2) Physically assist in the commission of such act.
Victim alleges he was grabbing her breasts and gentialia after consent was withdrawn and the main perp held her down.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 1:17 pm to supatigah
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he ONLY parts of the videos from the defendant's phones we will see before trial are edited clips favorable to the defense in the court of public opinion
Can’t the prosecution use the full video?
Posted on 2/14/23 at 1:22 pm to tiger91
Yes, prosecutors can use the full video if they cracked the phones or got the full video off the iCloud or any backup sources.
Grand jury and eventual jury will see the full video.
This joker out of Georgia shows up to WBRZ and WAFB with comments like this:
He's convinced it is a vast conspiracy.
Grand jury and eventual jury will see the full video.
This joker out of Georgia shows up to WBRZ and WAFB with comments like this:
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Vic Anthoni
If he sat too close to a woman in church, investigators will charge him with sexual assault. If he bumped into a female in a grocery store, she's going to come forward and make sexual assault accusations. We've seen this story before, any female he's had contact with will be targeted and pressured into making allegations against this young man. I want to see the evidence, I'll wait to see how it plays out in court. The alleged victim who came forward a few weeks ago wasn't convincing in her story. Detectives investigated and didn't find her story credible, and chose not to move forward with charges. After the incident with Madison Brooks a week or two later he was charged in Livingston Parish.
They will get him one way or another, this tactic isn't new in law enforcement. I find these last two sexual assault cases suspicious, but I as well as everyone else will just have to wait to see how it all unfolds.
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He's convinced it is a vast conspiracy.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 1:34 pm to JudgeHolden
Honestly, only one will likely end up getting convicted, the one with the other charges
the other two are likely gonna get off - not enough evidence beyond a reasonable doubt to be able to convict
no way the jury is gonna be able to come to any sort of conclusion with all the reasonable doubt that is gonna be put forth by the defense
the other two are likely gonna get off - not enough evidence beyond a reasonable doubt to be able to convict
no way the jury is gonna be able to come to any sort of conclusion with all the reasonable doubt that is gonna be put forth by the defense
Posted on 2/14/23 at 1:35 pm to HodsonTiger13
Of course they don’t, you’re reading too much into this.
How can you tell the audio is edited if she’s looking away and you can’t see the movement of her mouth? She mentioned she would call an Uber and when she says “I” she touches her chest at that same moment.
How can you tell the audio is edited if she’s looking away and you can’t see the movement of her mouth? She mentioned she would call an Uber and when she says “I” she touches her chest at that same moment.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 1:42 pm to tigerskin
The audio does not match the video. They could have added sound of Madison talking from any other time during the hour she was into the car to that point.
Why is the bottom 1/4 of the screen blurred out?
Go to 1:22.
That's weird.
Casen is hiding his face and wearing a hoodie to do so.
There was some plan to record this to justify booting her out of the car or showing her condition when let out??
I think this video idea backfires on them but will take hearing from the eventual jury post trial to find out.
Why is the bottom 1/4 of the screen blurred out?
Go to 1:22.
That's weird.
Casen is hiding his face and wearing a hoodie to do so.
There was some plan to record this to justify booting her out of the car or showing her condition when let out??
I think this video idea backfires on them but will take hearing from the eventual jury post trial to find out.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 1:46 pm to whoa
Again, the audio isn't matching her mouth moving on the screen.
It was lightly raining and cold out that night. They dropped Madison off and took off. A mile from Gardere. They don't wait to make sure the Uber shows up to get her?
To testify as to her state of mind - even with the video and BAC - I could see prosecutors flipping Casen. He'd testify as to the rapes taking place and, more importantly, to Madison slumping over. slurring speech, and the guys all knowing she was drunk and laughing about it on the way home.
Will find out tomorrow. If Casen is there, he's there to testify against the other three.
Long isn't in the video with the other three lawyers. That's a big hint what's coming...
Posted on 2/14/23 at 1:57 pm to HodsonTiger13
What evidence is there that it was raining?
As for the driver, if he knew of Washington's past acts, then he turned a rabid dog loose. No idea where that plays legally but it's pretty telling of poor character.
As for the driver, if he knew of Washington's past acts, then he turned a rabid dog loose. No idea where that plays legally but it's pretty telling of poor character.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 2:09 pm to AlwysATgr
Casen's role legally:
Casen drove the vehicle to the area where the rapes took place.
That enough to 'aid and abet' the rapes?
Typically, to 'flip' a defendant he would be offered a lesser offense (say, reckless endangerment) in exchange for his testifying against the other three.
The jury is told he's been promised something and attack the witness because of that.
Casen would then testify they all knew Madison was drunk and testify the extent she was drunk. He'd verify the rapes took place. Basically, instead of pleading the 5th he would assist the prosecution - within the bounds of being truthful - and, in exchange, not face say life in prison for rape first degree or negligent homicide.
Since he has no record, Washington is obviously going down for the other rapes, he's 18 so facing the penalties of an adult, looking at prison? He will flip.
We will know tomorrow if he is there at the grand jury as he would be there to testify.
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Louisiana R.S. 14:24 Principals
All persons concerned in the commission of a crime, whether present or absent, and whether they directly commit the act constituting the offense, aid and abet in its commission, or directly or indirectly counsel or procure another to commit the crime, are principals.
Casen drove the vehicle to the area where the rapes took place.
That enough to 'aid and abet' the rapes?
Typically, to 'flip' a defendant he would be offered a lesser offense (say, reckless endangerment) in exchange for his testifying against the other three.
The jury is told he's been promised something and attack the witness because of that.
Casen would then testify they all knew Madison was drunk and testify the extent she was drunk. He'd verify the rapes took place. Basically, instead of pleading the 5th he would assist the prosecution - within the bounds of being truthful - and, in exchange, not face say life in prison for rape first degree or negligent homicide.
Since he has no record, Washington is obviously going down for the other rapes, he's 18 so facing the penalties of an adult, looking at prison? He will flip.
We will know tomorrow if he is there at the grand jury as he would be there to testify.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 3:15 pm to HodsonTiger13
Any chance this latest video was taken before the rape?
Posted on 2/14/23 at 3:19 pm to slapahoe
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Any chance this latest video was taken before the rape?
My gut tells me that it was
Posted on 2/14/23 at 3:22 pm to HodsonTiger13
You keep stating this as if it’s a fact and it’s not. Do you know what goes into editing a video & manipulating the audio? Because I do.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 3:34 pm to Klondikekajun
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"Ethics" & "Reporter" in the same sentence?
LOL!
Well we're not talking national news media here. Local investigative reporters are normally pretty stand up. Nakamoto and whoever gave the final yay to air that should be embarrassed.
Posted on 2/14/23 at 3:40 pm to LSUFAITHFUL
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I would ordinarily agree. But, with Ronald Haley I would expect that he edited the video.
I believe that the prosecution would have to be aware that the defense would submit a spliced video, which would likely hurt the defense by having them withhold the entire video.
It makes more sense for the defense to try and find a way to defend the entirety of the video instead of cutting it up and hoping the prosecution doesn't realize, because they'll most certainly have the entire video.
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