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re: Defense Attorneys, have you ever represented a client that you knew was a colossal POS?
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:18 am to Solo Cam
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:18 am to Solo Cam
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If you do understand this - but also think it’s wrong to defend them - then what is your solution?
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Truth and justice is my solution
Don't do the wrong thing just because you can
What does this even mean?
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Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:25 am to MobileJosh
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Well you're a colossal piece of immoral fricking shite in the first place so how why would it bother you.
I’d insult you, but I have idea who you are
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:26 am to FAT SEXY
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If so, how do you juggle morality with simply doing your job?
A morality question can apply to any profession
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:27 am to liz18lsu
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So, you'd have no qualms in defending someone like Kermit Gosnell, because "it's the state's job" to prove he's a monster? That level of detached reasoning shows your arrogance. And greed.
Quite the contrary, your strong position on something you know practically nothing about shows both your ignorance and your arrogance.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:30 am to FAT SEXY
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Attorneys
They see a colossal piece of human garbage everytime they look in the mirror
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:32 am to Solo Cam
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You don't see the morality question of using legal loop holes to let guilty men walk free into our society? Your justification is it's the states responsibility and you know the men are guilty and pieces of shite but you get to make a lot of money right? Who cares about victims and their families, have you seen the newest iPhone? I understand everyone is innocent until proven guilty. I just also have a conscience and pity those who have traded their soul for a dollar. I hope it's worth it.
As other posters mentioned, the idea that criminal defense is focussed on “legal loopholes” is detached from reality. Though amusingly, most criminal defendants think that’s how it works as well and are woefully disappointed that it doesn’t.
Also, the idea that 99% of criminal defense attorneys “do it for the money” is comical. There’s plenty of other work they could do for a lot more money and a lot less stress.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:32 am to Joshjrn
Well, we know who defense attorneys are for sure.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:32 am to SlowFlowPro
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How exactly do you determine who gets no defense?
exactly....like wtf....crazy to me some people on here just immediately form opinions based on things they have seen in the media or from the DA and auto assume a person is guilty.
I would rather see 10 guilty men walk free than 1 innocent man in jail.
and defense attorneys are a huge check on government power. frick anyone that thinks other wise.
and what most people bitch about is not even defense attorneys getting clients off, its judges that are activist and decide to give big time reduced sentences for violent criminals. That has nothing to do with defense attorneys
bottom line is every single person in America deserves a defense should they decide to go that direction. Defense attorneys are one of the first lines of defense against tyranny.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:33 am to lepdagod
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A morality question can apply to any profession
Correct. We live in an economy with tons of services for consumer. Lawyers are a service profession. There are plenty of others that can be discussed.
Should doctors treat people accused of criminality?
Should accountants do taxes of people accused of criminality?
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:35 am to Solo Cam
The same people here who take advantage of tax law loopholes to save money are the same who don’t believe a defense attorney should find legal loopholes to get their clients off. It’s unnerving to me
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:36 am to mr bunion
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Well, we know who defense attorneys are for sure.
Brilliant insight, mr bunion
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:38 am to lsu777
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exactly....like wtf....crazy to me some people on here just immediately form opinions based on things they have seen in the media or from the DA and auto assume a person is guilty.
They're using emotions instead of logic.
Gosnell is a terrible case with a terrible person, so that one is easy. The emotional reaction to that story is having people emotionally-irrationally extrapolate that into a larger discussion tainted by that emotional-irrational framing.
Not all cases are that easy/open and shut, so extrapolating from those cases is just retarded.
The weird part is the overlap in the people being emotional-irrational and claim lawyers who defend people accused of terrible crimes who also will say something like "I don't believe women who claim they were raped because of false rape allegations." To add a layer of the irrationality, add in another overlap with people who automatically believe insane SRA allegations (when we have such a history showing how they are BS and many innocent people paid great prices over those allegations).
It's a mess in terms of consistent rhetoric. The hallmark of emotional thinking.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:44 am to FAT SEXY
By protecting the POS rights, we protect everyone’s rights.
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:45 am to The Cow Goes Moo Moo
quote:now do PI attorneys
They see a colossal piece of human garbage everytime they look in the mirror
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:46 am to FAT SEXY
of coursePosted on 3/26/26 at 7:48 am to SlowFlowPro
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They're using emotions instead of logic.
Gosnell is a terrible case with a terrible person, so that one is easy. The emotional reaction to that story is having people emotionally-irrationally extrapolate that into a larger discussion tainted by that emotional-irrational framing.
pretty much what the OT and PT do all the time about everything
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Not all cases are that easy/open and shut, so extrapolating from those cases is just retarded.
exactly. Its weird people will post things like....75% of eye witnesses accounts are wrong...then the next day post some social media garbage about someone and want that person hung based off a fricking facebook post
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The weird part is the overlap in the people being emotional-irrational and claim lawyers who defend people accused of terrible crimes who also will say something like "I don't believe women who claim they were raped because of false rape allegations." To add a layer of the irrationality, add in another overlap with people who automatically believe insane SRA allegations (when we have such a history showing how they are BS and many innocent people paid great prices over those allegations).
It's a mess in terms of consistent rhetoric. The hallmark of emotional thinking.
yea its crazy. both here and the PT are really really bad about contradictions. Zero principles. They will claim that the government is bad, gov over reach needs to be checked, claim police are corrupt then turn around and believe the police account right off the bat
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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Correct. We live in an economy with tons of services for consumer.
More than that … we live in a capitalistic society that strives on paying as less as possible for labor… system intentionally devoid of morality
Posted on 3/26/26 at 7:52 am to SlowFlowPro
Sometimes you just know somebody is guilty. You can tell by looking at em.
This post was edited on 3/26/26 at 7:53 am
Posted on 3/26/26 at 8:11 am to FAT SEXY
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Defense Attorneys, have you ever represented a client that you knew was a colossal POS?
Posted on 3/26/26 at 8:13 am to FAT SEXY
Morality in this situation is different for attorneys.
The moral thing to do is give your client the best defense you can and force the state to make their case.
The moral thing to do is give your client the best defense you can and force the state to make their case.
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