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"Dealer fees" in connection with a used-vehicle purchase

Posted on 1/21/25 at 8:47 pm
Posted by Zachary
Member since Jan 2007
1761 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 8:47 pm
An online listing for a used vehicle states a price, but then qualifies that by saying the stated price does not include TT&L or "dealer fees." Any idea what "dealer fees" means?
Thank you.
This post was edited on 1/21/25 at 8:56 pm
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
36507 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 8:48 pm to
$499 frick you in the arse fee
Posted by LSU Neil
Springfield
Member since Feb 2007
2888 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 8:50 pm to
Freight, prep, delivery, could be 800-900 bucks
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
4752 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 8:51 pm to
quote:

$499 frick you in the arse fee



This. There are certain dealers that are worse than that. You wonder why people hate car dealers and then you see this crap.

There ought to be a law that says "the price you negotiate/advertise on the web is the price the customer pays".

Also why do they have to check my credit when I pay cash for a car???
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
58434 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 8:51 pm to
Tell them to take that bullshite off. The least they could do is just throw it in with the price of the vehicle so you can’t see it!
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
35333 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 8:52 pm to
You can always walk away.


They can put all the fees they want. But you can negotiate the OTD price and say good bye.
Posted by Beef Tips
Member since Jan 2013
2877 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 9:10 pm to
max doc fee of $425 in louisiana. shitty but most dealers will charge it. some states have unlimited fees (looking at you, florida)
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130176 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 9:46 pm to
Never pay any add on fees, even document fees. They are all a scam and unnecessary
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
70147 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 9:51 pm to
quote:

Any idea what "dealer fees" means?
It means the party who agrees to pay it agrees to be figuratively fricked in the bung hole.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
69121 posts
Posted on 1/21/25 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

Any idea what "dealer fees" means?
Thank you.


Extra profit

They can put as many line items abs whatever price next to them that they want. Either agree on the amount the check needs to be made out to, or walk out.
Posted by Dingeaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
5418 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 1:06 am to
I've had them try to add a low jack car tracking system on the car. This was a significant add on that was not included in the online price. Pissed me off. I refused to pay it. Told them to take it out the car
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
10077 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 1:16 am to
If you step on a dealer lot without a price, you're already screwed. But we do this dance every other week.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130176 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 3:31 am to
Never pay any fees. Never
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
14316 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 6:48 am to
Everything is negotiable. Don’t pay it, walk. They’ll eventually call back and get rid of it.
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
2306 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 7:11 am to
The fee is there so you'll negotiate away the fee and they can hold more firmly on the price.

You negotiate the price to where you want it first, then tell them to GFT on the fee.
Posted by Them
Metry
Member since Nov 2008
11270 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:02 am to
Whatever it is, I promise it could be worse.

I am a car salesman and on Monday I saw a post in a big dealership group on FB where a guy who got a job offer asked the group’s opinion on how the store pays and does business.

For reference, it’s a Mazda dealer in Florida.

They have a $999 doc fee and a $2,800 “protection package” ON EVERY USED CAR.

Not that it isn’t all negotiable, but good Lord. Coming right out the gate with $3,800 baked in.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6459 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:08 am to
A local dealer notoriously displays a low price and then tacks on $2,000 to $3000 from what I read in reviews. They have a metric ton of inventory and when I look at their vehicles on auto trader, they've started adding a banner that says "no added dealer fees". I suppose their tactics have started impacting business. Sucks because when you're looking for a truck, the screen is absolutely clogged by this dealership and I haven't figured out a way to ignore their ads.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
30274 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:17 am to
quote:

Also why do they have to check my credit when I pay cash for a car???

they don't. I've paid cash for my last 4 vehicles (over 18 years) and zero of them have checked my credit.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130176 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:23 am to
quote:

A local dealer notoriously displays a low price and then tacks on $2,000 to $3000 from what I read in reviews.

quote:

they've started adding a banner that says "no added dealer fees"


They have built them into the cost somewhere. They never remove them unless you look deeply at the invoice.
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
21062 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 8:34 am to
Just recently one of my sons bought a pre-owned dirt bike from a dealer that had only 2 hours run time on it. They settled on a price and at signing sprung the $399 dealer fee. Wait, what? Well, it’s applied to everything new or used at that dealer site. It was a local trade in and didn’t need any kind of prep, etc.
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