re: Deadly accident at Ohio State Fair caused by corrosion, says ride maker

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The notion that you can't have a fun childhood without going to a traveling carnival is hilarious.

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Did anyone say that you can't have a fun childhood without going to a carnival? It was more about the reaction. Accident happens at Ohio State fair... reaction "that's why I would never let my kids go to one. By the way it is trashy".

It just came off as.. Maybe seeing a news article about a vehicle accident and someone saying "that's why I would never let my kids ride in a vehicle. plus it is trashy".

This whole thing about "I don't want to expose my kids to any more trashy people than they have to be" mindset is just funny. There isn't just one way of being "trashy".

Another thing, let's say you live in a small city where they have an annual festival or something. All your kid's peers will be there, etc, etc. It might not be something you would do if you didn't have kids, but because all of their peers will be there, they want to go, etc.. What are you going to do "No kids, all your friends are trashy! Their family is trashy! We are staying home. Plus, an accident might happen on one of the rides. Now go to your room and shut up!"

I read in a news article that the opening day of the fair was almost pushed back because they had a lot of rain the week prior to the fair opening, which caused some problems and delays during the setup of the rides. It quoted someone who is (or was) one of the heads of the fair saying that the opening wouldn't be delayed and that crews would be working around the clock, day and night until the start time of the fair and that they wouldn't push back the start date.

I'm wondering if this led to the rides not being properly inspected and them missing this corrosion, thus putting lives in danger. I'm guessing that's probably close to what happened and because of their dumbass negligence and greed, a good, young man who joined the military and seemingly had a good head on his shoulders lost his life and others got injured.

IIRC at least 4 separate people signed off on this ride passing inspection.

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IIRC at least 4 separate people signed off on this ride passing inspection.

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Damn, I didn't see or hear that. Didn't read the link so don't know if it was mentioned.

I wonder if charges can be brought against people who signed off on the ride? Maybe some sort of manslaughter or negligent homicide/manslaughter (is that even a charge? ) or something. Not too familiar with what all those charges entail, just thinking about it. It just seems like bullshite for them to be inspecting rides and signing off on them with corrosion, which should be one of the easier things to spot, especially since it was deemed "excessive corrosion". If it was something difficult to spot or something out of their control, obviously I wouldn't say anything about the charges. But excessive corrosion? That seems like it should be easier to spot and the fact that they were rushing things to get it open leads me to believe maybe they weren't inspecting it properly, which seems like it would leave them open to have legal action taken against them.

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I wonder if charges can be brought against people who signed off on the ride? Maybe some sort of manslaughter or negligent homicide/manslaughter (is that even a charge?

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Anyone who signed off can and will be certainly sued in civil court. However, for criminal cases, it will take a bit more, but I still wouldn't be surprised to see a good number of people being listed as defendants.

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wonder if charges can be brought against people who signed off on the ride? Maybe some sort of manslaughter or negligent homicide/manslaughter (is that even a charge? ) or something. Not too familiar with what all those charges entail, just thinking about it. It just seems like bullshite for them to be inspecting rides and signing off on them with corrosion, which should be one of the easier things to spot, especially since it was deemed "excessive corrosion". If it was something difficult to spot or something out of their control, obviously I wouldn't say anything about the charges. But excessive corrosion? That seems like it should be easier to spot and the fact that they were rushing things to get it open leads me to believe maybe they weren't inspecting it properly, which seems like it would leave them open to have legal action taken against them.

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Could go either way as you say, in the aviation world there have been numerous cases where a plane was inspected as required, and signed off as airworthy only to have the wings or some other critical structure fail afterwards. The investigation that followed would find corrosion that was not previously detected and that would lead to new and revised inspection procedures.

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I'm wondering if this led to the rides not being properly inspected and them missing this corrosion, thus putting lives in danger. 

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The corrosion occurred over many years from what I read. It was occurring inside the beam which would be undetectable to the eye.


Some sort of nondestructive testing would have been the only way to determine if hidden corrosion was happening. Whether this testing should have been done or was done will be the focus.

No way can a person spend a hour or so and inspect a ride for any possible weakness.

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Regulations stifle the economy

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They didn't save lives here either

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Some sort of nondestructive testing would have been the only way to determine if hidden corrosion was happening. Whether this testing should have been done or was done will be the focus. 

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This is why Disney World has their own QCs and inspectors and hires contract NDE. A simple UT could have found this.

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Did anyone say that you can't have a fun childhood without going to a carnival?

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Actullay, yes. Try reading next time.