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re: Date-onomics: How Dating Became a Lopsided Numbers Game (Book)
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:40 pm to Kujo
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:40 pm to Kujo
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I don't think that women devalue on the surface to guys as fast as is being stated.
I'm pretty sure we've been told that 30 years is our expiration date.
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They know they've aged, wrinkled, sagged comparatively over the past 5 years
This is why we have plastic surgery and Dr. Jean-Luis Sabagh's fabulous anti-aging French melon in a jar
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their expectations lower and start to fall in line with where they should have been from the get go.
Not for women who actually value themselves. This is more about actually being self-aware than some biological imperative.
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the guy they should have choose 5 years ago
*chosen
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now making 50% more and is mean.
then chances are he wasn't worth it 5 years ago. If a little more money changes his personality that much, I want nothing to do with him. I'd rather be single.
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Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:40 pm to Festus
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That's just ridiculous. And shallow.
When you can't swim, you go where the water isn't so high.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:42 pm to Festus
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I directly responded to the quote of Hammertime, and his allegation that all women decrease in value. And I'm creating a new argument here?
when you say "ok let's ignore biology" you do
biology (and evolution, which is biology) is the biggest part of this argument
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It happens both ways, fwiw.
not at the same rate
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But the answer is not that because all women decrease in value as they age. That's just ridiculous. And shallow.
you can post whatever subjective description you want to justify your position, but the economics and biology disagree
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:42 pm to HempHead
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Howdya like that knuckle sammich?
Coming from a poster with the sterling reputation of honesty that he has, it was easily swallowed.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:43 pm to Pectus
I got over it once I got a real job and my own house. Women frick up all the fun stuff. Haven't actively pursued a girlfriend in over two years and it's been fantastic.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:43 pm to Hammertime
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I don't sit around and notice how a guy looks, but the successful ones definitely have a much different personality that the unsuccessful ones.
Word.
My group of guy friends was just like yours in college. If my group of friends were 10 deep, the best looking guys(1 and 2) werent very good talking to women. 3,4,5 cleaned house because they were good looking but they were also able to communicate with women. dont get me wrong, they werent banging 10s all the time but the ability to hold a convo with a girl outweighed the great looks of 1 and 2
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:44 pm to rocket31
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i said ~10% and they still didnt buy it, so good luck selling that
Well you have to qualify it - I'm talking desirable single women who are dating and not explicitly settling for "the one". That group of 20-27 year old desirable single women are fricking no more than 5-10% of the the comparable male population (aged 25-35).
The remaining 90% of guys don't have a chance other than to improve themselves, settle for less desirable women, or hope to find a rare outlier.
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:44 pm to Festus
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It happens both ways, fwiw. And it's an indication of shallowness to an extent. So in general, are women as a gender not as shallow? Maybe.
Not in the same numbers, to the same degree. Again, you're either delusional or being disingenuous.
Cherry-picking. Here ya go.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:45 pm to SouthOfSouth
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Fes,
this is a book on economics and it talks on a macro level man.... It's not about EVERY woman losing value. It's averages.
I truly do understand that, and with the biological studies, I agree in regards to average.
Go back and look. My response was specifically to the statement made by Hammertime:
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As girls get older, they don't realize a man's value increases, while theirs decreases. That's why we can seriously date younger girls, and yall can only one-night-stand younger guys.
I think that statement is ridiculous. I have outlined my reasons as to why. And I stand by my opinion. (it's just that, an opinion).
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:46 pm to NoHoTiger
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then chances are he wasn't worth it 5 years ago. If a little more money changes his personality that much, I want nothing to do with him.
no, more about how he sees it, "good guy" who did the right thing but received no affection, but now I make more money, all of a sudden I'm attractive enough.
He's not taking into account the women's lower expectations, so he has a bit of resentment. Sure you got screwed by every Baw in a 10 mile vicinty, now I get to take care of you. Hooray for me!
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:48 pm to SirWinston
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I'm talking desirable single women who are dating and not explicitly settling for "the one". That group of 20-27 year old desirable single women are fricking no more 5-10% of the the comparable male population (aged 25-35)
id agree, but i do not have any data to support that assertion.
like i said, i really wish tinder would release theirs - but the outcome of telling ~90% of men that you dont even have a chance would not be positive
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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you can post whatever subjective description you want to justify your position, but the economics and biology disagree
So why did you start this thread for discussion? You have clearly made it known, you are right, economics and biology are on your side, and there is no discussion?
Did you start this thread simply to impress the board with your extensive knowledge? Or did you start it just so you could argue, then deem yourself as correct? Kinda like Hammertime?
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:49 pm to HempHead
Yeah, but I'm not gonna sit around my house trying to figure out which one of my friends looks the best. That's gay
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:50 pm to Festus
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I think that statement is ridiculous.
it's not ridiculous. the facts even back it up
wiki article
while the biggest groupings are closer to "same age", the men skew much older otherwise
if you read the article, there is even a cite to a study disproving the "cougar" myth
older men date younger women at a much higher rate than older women date younger men
now the one part he's wrong about is assuming women don't realize that their value decreases. the beautification industry wouldn't exist if this were true
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:50 pm to rocket31
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but the outcome of telling ~90% of men that you dont even have a chance would not be positive
again there are plenty of fat girls or complete trash i could easily bang on tinder. it's all about how far you're willing to drop your standards
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:51 pm to rocket31
Yep the reality is that tinder has made it EASIER for the top 5% to 10% guys to lay the top 30% of women and HARDER for the other 90% of guys.
The guys in the 11-30% of worth (to females) are settling for girls in the 40% to 60% range of tinder
The guys in the 31% to 100% of worth (to females) are just giving up
The guys in the 11-30% of worth (to females) are settling for girls in the 40% to 60% range of tinder
The guys in the 31% to 100% of worth (to females) are just giving up
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:51 pm to Hammertime
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Yeah, but I'm not gonna sit around my house trying to figure out which one of my friends looks the best. That's gay
It's not something that requires deep contemplation. You don't need a lot of time and effort to know when a woman is attractive.
Please don't tell me you're one of those, "I dunno lol, all dudes are pretty much the same to me."
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
Inb4 Wikipedia dismissal!
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:52 pm to Festus
quote:Don't hate me because I'm a 10%'er
Kinda like Hammertime?
Posted on 1/29/16 at 2:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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there are plenty of fat girls or complete trash i could easily bang on tinder. it's all about how far you're willing to drop your standards
banging a slag can be even more demoralizing then jerking yourself off, while guys might say theyll frick fatties, they often feel like shite afterwards.
most men are going to chase girls that are, at least, 6/10 and above
the issue is that the 6+/10 girl wants guys who are all 8+/10
This post was edited on 1/29/16 at 2:54 pm
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