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Posted on 6/8/16 at 5:07 pm to LNCHBOX
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Youre never going to get it. As you said, you can only see black or white.
Help me understand.
The kid was either in the right or in the wrong. The cops reaction to his decision is irrelevant to whether or not he made a reasonable decision. Hell, even if the cop kills him you don't get to look back at the decision in hindsight and say, "well, it wasn't worth dying for." That's not how it works. You've said so yourself that rogue cops are few and far between, so being assaulted or shot and killed is not a consequence a person should reasonably need to weigh.
You're acting like the kid decided between getting his arse beat for holding his ground or complying, and that simply isn't the case. He obviously did get his arse beat, but that isn't his fault. At all. 0%. Not "yeah, but..." Completely innocent of all fault and culpability.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 5:08 pm to slackster
If you haven't gotten it by now, you never will. Im cool with letting this thread going the way of the dodo if you are.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 5:10 pm to LNCHBOX
Posted on 6/8/16 at 5:10 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:So, you're saying that you would have simply acquiesed to the cop's bull shite, but then reported him?
Picking when to fight them does not make me a bootlicker.
Well. Since we know exactly how that would have worked out and we've seen that reality repeatedly, I think that's a little leather on your tongue.
quote:See above
Picking the right venue for the fight makes me a coward? Seems like it just makes me intelligent.
quote:You make fun of people who stand up to the state abusing its power. You say you would do it in a way that we already KNOW is completely ineffective.
Using the term bootlicker just makes you look like a fool.
So, nope. Given how silly you've been in this thread, I'll stick with it.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 5:12 pm to ShortyRob
Stick with it all you want. Calling names when you disagree is a sign that you're not worth discussing things with.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 5:13 pm to slackster
quote:Hell, it's not even like saying you'd prefer not to roll your window down is some crazy thing. There are dozens of videos of people doing this on YouTube with the cops reacting completely professionally.
The kid was either in the right or in the wrong. The cops reaction to his decision is irrelevant to whether or not he made a reasonable decision
It's not really a reasonable assumption that if I don't roll my window all the way down, I can forsee that the cop will tase me till my heart stops then drop me on my face.
And if that IS considered to be something a person dealing with police in American should foresee................then damn.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 6:16 pm to LNCHBOX
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Well I'm glad he could get brain damaged for you. I won't ever make that sacrifice for you, and I have no problem saying it.
For real man, these stupid kids that never been in a minutes shite in their whole fricking life,telling people that have been in so much, that we learn how to work through it.
So many bad arse heroes of the common people on this board, but so far,none of them show up to do shite to help anybody.
The big video today is a kid running into a garage to hug a dog,none of these bad talking assholes ever do a damn thing. They type a lot though.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 7:37 pm to LNCHBOX
You are obtuse as frick, but I really do admire your singular ability to make these threads go 20 pages. 
Posted on 6/8/16 at 7:53 pm to PuntBamaPunt
If he would've peaceably got out of the car none of that shite would've happened.
He could make the illegal search complaint after the fact.
I agree that the cop was out of line but why push it until something like that happens.
He could make the illegal search complaint after the fact.
I agree that the cop was out of line but why push it until something like that happens.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 8:05 pm to TigernMS12
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Two questions for everyone that is saying the kid is partly at a fault: Why should we as citizens have to walk on egg shells around police when they serve us? It's the cops responsibility to control the situation and not let it get out of hand. Not the other way around. Second, you do understand his rights were violated the second he pulled the car over without a warrant, so his rights were violated way before he was physically assaulted. The people in here that are scared of the police are the problem. It's the reason that they consistently infringe upon people's rights and break laws. If weak bitches like yourself wouldn't constantly ask how long to stay on your knees they wouldn't be this way.
very sad situation on both sides.
This post was edited on 6/9/16 at 9:28 am
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:15 pm to LNCHBOX
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he could get brain damaged for you. I won't ever make that sacrifice for you, and I have no problem saying
I'm glad our forefathers didn't thimk like you or all of the people that served in WW2.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:19 pm to LNCHBOX
Slack:
LB:
LB:
If you can't understand how people read this as you placing blame on the kid, I don't know what to tell you.
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Any reasonable person will understand that you're implying the kid was somehow at fault
LB:
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No they won't because that's not what I've said ever.
LB:
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The kid's actions are part of the situation, that's just a fact. It could have been handled differently by both parties. The cop shoulders 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the blame here, but that doesn't mean that the kid didn't do something that got this situation to where it was.
If you can't understand how people read this as you placing blame on the kid, I don't know what to tell you.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:26 pm to Whatafrekinchessiebr
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If you can't understand how people read this as you placing blame on the kid, I don't know what to tell you
He does this shite all the time. He denies saying something then when presented with a quote he denies the meaning of it or suddenly can't read. You almost feel sorry for him.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:27 pm to PuntBamaPunt
I'm not buying the clarity of that audio.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:45 pm to Nativebullet
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All you need is PC.
Like the previous time the same cop detained the same kid and reached in his pocket and found weed without PC? Which resulted in the kid's cop father advising his son that a cop is constitutionally required to tell you whether you are under arrest and why? Good call douchenozzle. I know, the kid got the brain damage he deserved. You said that earlier.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:08 pm to tigerpimpbot
So, did anyone else go to jail for assisting in the cover up? Should have. And why only 4 years? Pretty sure if I taze an officer for 24 seconds then follow up with a smashing of his face into the pavement causing brain damage while he's going cardio I get drugs or electricity after 20+ years in solitary. And rightly so. That's brutal as hell.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:44 pm to Large Farva
All of this could have been avoided if he simply rolled his window down and answered a few questions.
Not saying that the cop has no fault obviously, but the 18 year old man was pretty much asking for it.
Not saying that the cop has no fault obviously, but the 18 year old man was pretty much asking for it.
Posted on 6/8/16 at 11:26 pm to The Pirate King
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All of this could have been avoided if he simply rolled his window down and answered a few questions.
If you read the story, the kid had been having frequent run-ins with the police. He had been recently advised on how to keep his rights from being violated.
They were worried about him being harassed or illegally searched. I don't think they thought it would escalate like that.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 2:04 am to LNCHBOX
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Stick with it all you want. Calling names when you disagree is a sign that you're not worth discussing things with.
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That's not me being obtuse, it's him being an idiot.
I'm just trying to make it obvious for anyone still taking lunchbox seriously.
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