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re: Dallas suburb growth compared to Houston and San Antonio suburb growth.

Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:28 pm to
Houston is a larger city for one, so there was a little less sprawl over time. Both metros are in the top 5 in population.

San Antonio has a large city limit area and is still the 3rd largest metro in Texas.
Posted by beerandt
Member since Jan 2020
321 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:30 pm to
Dallas metro, for whatever reason, was ahead of the curve building GHW Bush loop and similar infrastructure and the arterial feeders connected to it. (ETA: including the tollway extension.)

I remember going to visit family in Richardson in the early 90's (ish) and seeing them building these 5 story interchanges in the middle of empty farmland, and thinking "wtf?" My only LA experience to compare it to was the Miss River bridge we built that didn't have approaches for years.

Within a decade, it was 100% built up. It was like seeing that "perfect" sim city layout take off, irl.
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 1:39 pm
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
12009 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:32 pm to
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Houston is a larger city


This seems to be the consensus. Greed of the city prevents surrounding areas from becoming their own municipality. Strange that people just sit there and take it. Especially with democrats running the city government and crime continuing to climb.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:34 pm to
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Dallas really has unlimited land to expand and grow


You need to stop at Grayson County. Don't cross the river and stop going toward Fannin County.

Those of us along the Red want nothing to do with the North Dallas McMansions on postage stamp lots.
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 1:41 pm
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
55641 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:34 pm to
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San Antonio ?? has no water and some demographic problems

Houston has demographic problems that Dallas has no idea of.



Posted by beerandt
Member since Jan 2020
321 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:38 pm to
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Houston has demographic problems that Dallas has no idea of.


I don't doubt there's a measurable difference, but South & SW Dallas exist. (Not sure what the proper area names are.)

ETA: Dallas having things divided into more, smaller municipalities probably helps here.
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 1:57 pm
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
15056 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:49 pm to
I'd probably rather live in Houston than Dallas these days, and would rather live in San Antonio than either.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:53 pm to
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I'd probably rather live in Houston than Dallas these days, and would rather live in San Antonio than either.



I, too, would rank Dallas #3 on that list.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
19179 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 1:56 pm to
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if they actually had money, they would have been able to fight the annexation.


I was told the Woodlands sends a check to Harris County to be left alone. Guess those ballers don’t mind paying that way.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
5952 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 2:00 pm to
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You need to stop at Grayson County. Don't cross the river and stop going toward Fannin County.

Those of us along the Red want nothing to do with the North Dallas McMansions on postage stamp lots.




Nobody gives a frick about Oklahoma dude. Keep your meth on that side of the "Red".
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
3803 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 6:29 pm to
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Most non-tech corporate relocations pick DWF over Hou.

Simply because DWF has a slightly better climate and its central geography makes it easier to get to the rest of the country
It's mostly because of DFW Airport. My company is headquartered in Irving for that sole reason. You can get to any major, mid major, and even small metro markets in less than 4 hours from DFW.
This post was edited on 1/28/22 at 6:31 pm
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
29135 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 7:02 pm to
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Why have the Dallas suburbs exploded at a much faster rate than the Houston and San Antonio suburbs?


I’ll echo the land area thoughts, because Its not like SA or Houston growth has slowed up. SA metro has actually grown at a faster rate than DFW I believe.
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
13466 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 7:18 pm to
Houston has no zoning and is a shithole.
Posted by yaboidarrell
westbank
Member since Feb 2017
6317 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 7:18 pm to
The I-35 corridor northeast of San Antonio is the fastest growing region of he country (although that's more because of Austin than SA). The Far West side of San Antonio is growing like crazy too.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
15031 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 7:28 pm to
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Isn't it simply that the City of Dallas itself is a much smaller municipality geographically than the other two?

Even Dallas County is about half the geographical size of Harris.

Most of the DFW growth is Collin, Denton, Tarrant, etc.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
42374 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 7:42 pm to
DFW has 2 major cities and both have suburbs so multiply by 2.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
194649 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 7:47 pm to
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Some years back Harris County annexed Kingwood
no

Kingwood has been in Harris County before it was Kingwood


Houston annexed Harris County before Humble could
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8950 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:34 pm to
Yea… gonna need to see your data on this one. San Antonio is exploding. I think you’re just making up shite out of thin air.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39901 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:46 pm to
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Houston has no zoning and is a shithole.



Ok commie, we like freedom
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
13466 posts
Posted on 1/28/22 at 8:54 pm to
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Ok commie, we like freedom


Yes, you are free to have a crappy strip center with a taco truck in front of your neighborhood.
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