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re: Dallas area Police Shoot and Kill 15yr teen

Posted on 5/1/17 at 9:15 am to
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58567 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 9:15 am to
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Darth, you're not the pseudo-intellectual the OT wants, but you're the one they need.

Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36473 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 9:15 am to
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Hey, Gerry, In the 1960s there was a young man that graduated from the University of Michigan. Did some brilliant work in mathematics. Specifically bounded harmonic functions. Then he went on to Berkeley. He was assistant professor. Showed amazing potential. Then he moved to Montana, and blew the competition away.

This is what we've come to in this society. When a cop kills a 15 year old kid and said kid's friends and family publicly question the credibility of the cop's story because it doesn't fit with the kid's character and intelligence, we have people comparing the kid to the Unabomber.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
31108 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 9:17 am to
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prolly because he shot an unarmed teen


Was in a car trying to run the cop over right?

Y'all keep making these generalizations without facts.

Why don't you wait until the facts/evidence comes out and then you can go full retard.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
67143 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 9:17 am to
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He was a straight A student, I can tell you he was always smiling,” McDonald said. “I can tell you he was a very, very brilliant and humble and very sweet kid.”


So he was likely an outcast for "selling out" and "acting white."
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 9:20 am to
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Was in a car trying to run the cop over right?


Or simply backing up at a high rate of speed to GTFO from the gun fire they heard. Just because you happen to be in the street doesn't mean you are my target. I hope there is cam footage, because I guaranty there was more than adequate time for the cops to just step to the side of the road, or a myriad of other non-lethal options.

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Y'all keep making these generalizations without facts.


But you just said they were in a car trying to run a cop over. Was that their intent? I doubt it.

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Why don't you wait until the facts/evidence comes out and then you can go full retard.


Ditto. I agree.

Posted by GI_BOE
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2016
151 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 9:24 am to
you should follow your own advice
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
31108 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 9:35 am to
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you should follow your own advice


Just trying to give you examples of how stupid you look.

I'm waiting for the facts, seems like a lot of bashing the cop though.

I dont think he woke up that morning and thought hey lets go kill a kid. Probably just a normal dude like everyone else.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38705 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 9:55 am to
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I need you to know the name #JordanEdwards

The youngest kid killed by American police this year
15.

An amazing boy. Unarmed. Non-violent.

Shaun King



This story is going to pick up steam. It is unfortunate that the narrative will get twisted from here on out.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20660 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:02 am to
Alton Sterling was an 'amazing' member of society too, the next time one of these people killed by police are announced by the family as wastes of life will be the first time.

Chances are the kids heard shots and raced out of there. But if there are shots fired and you almost run over a cop, you are playing with fire. Could easily be a very sad situation where no one is to blame.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39595 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:14 am to
The family's attorney is saying the kids were backing out of their parking space, not driving down the street backwards in an aggressive manner.

The latest article said the kid's 16 year old brother was driving. It also says the shots entered the car through the driver's window, hitting the 15 year old in the front passenger seat.

The boy stopped the car one block away when he realized his brother's head was smoking.

There are three dash cams available and every officer had a body cam. All footage has been given to the Sheriff's office.
Posted by Jack Bauer7
Member since Jun 2012
5040 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:14 am to
i haven't seen the story pop up on cnn yet,
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12149 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:17 am to
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Could easily be a very sad situation where no one is to blame.



those don't happen any more. Hell if you are going down the road and a tire blows out and you flip the family will blame someone.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39595 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:23 am to
I forgot, the family's attorney also said none of the 5 kids in the car had been drinking.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12149 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:33 am to
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The boy stopped the car one block away when he realized his brother's head was smoking.

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this will help their case tremendously, this was the question I was asking earlier in the thread.

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It also says the shots entered the car through the driver's window, hitting the 15 year old in the front passenger seat.



this will frick the cops if he was shot from the front rather than the back. i was curious as to how no one else was hit by a bullet coming from the back of the car while the kid was supposedly in the front passenger seat.

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There are three dash cams available and every officer had a body cam. All footage has been given to the Sheriff's office.



this will be settled soon enough then.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34524 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:41 am to
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Here we go


Well, maybe this will redirect the agitators away from Baton Rouge. Hate to be callous, but shite.

That said, I hope they have some good bodycam footage to show that the Dallas cops were indeed in danger. Otherwise, that's not going to be a good situation.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38705 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:48 am to
Press Release:
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On Saturday, April 29, 2017 at/or about 11:00 PM an unidentified Balch Springs police officer, allegedly responding to a disturbance call, fired multiple rounds into a motor vehicle occupied by five teenage boys. At least one of the rounds struck 15 year old Jordan Edwards in the head killing him. Jordan had attended a community party with dozens of other youth and was leaving the scene at the time he was fatally shot. It’s been reported that as officers arrived, attendees began to disperse, including Edwards and his companions. They hurried into the car and began to maneuver out of the parking space when they heard someone shout profanity at them. The unidentified person shouting at them was holding a flashlight and appeared to be a police officer. Before the driver could respond the unidentified police officer fired multiple shots at the vehicle. The driver sped away from the gun fire only to discover Edwards had been struck in the head. He stopped the car and flagged down the nearest emergency vehicle. Edwards was transported to Baylor Hospital where he was later pronounced dead.

Jordan Edwards was a straight “A” freshman at Mesquite High School. He was a student athlete who was loved by his family and peers alike. The family is truly devastated by this senseless killing and is calling on a thorough investigation, which should lead to the termination of the officer and criminal charges filed against him for his reckless conduct and disregard for life. Based on witness accounts of the incident, there simply was no justifiable and/or lawful reason for the officer to fire at an occupied vehicle.

As the family struggles to deal with the pointless murder of their child they now have to face false claims of under-age drinking and fabrications about “aggressive" behavior. The Balch Springs PD has offered a familiar narrative in the absence of weapons or any indication of actual danger to the officer and any other person. The claim that the vehicle that Edwards occupied when he was shot “moved in an aggressive way toward an officer” is transparently contrived in order to justify a defenseless act of murder. The facts will bear out the truth and on behalf of the family we demand transparency with all facts and evidence involved. The family is calling on the community to stand with them, resolute in the demand for justice. Civil Rights Attorneys, Lee Merritt, Jasmine Crockett and Daryl Washington, are reviewing the evidence and actively talking to individuals who may have witnessed the incident. They are calling on officials to release the name and identity of the officer involved in the deadly shooting.


Lee Merritt, Esq. - Facebook Page and Press Release
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 10:51 am
Posted by Jack Bauer7
Member since Jun 2012
5040 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:49 am to
the out of town agitators are probably already here
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263366 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 11:00 am to
Sure seems easier to move out of the way than to draw a firearm and fire into the car.

Some cops don't shoot because they have to. They do because they can.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79533 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 11:06 am to
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So he was likely an outcast for "selling out" and "acting white."



WTF

Was the narrative in this thread not going your way so you had to find a way to bring it back around to faults in the black community?
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34524 posts
Posted on 5/1/17 at 11:14 am to
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Sure seems easier to move out of the way than to draw a firearm and fire into the car.

Some cops don't shoot because they have to. They do because they can.



Yeah, this is why it's important to look at each incident of lethal force individually based on its own facts. Too often, people choose their side before the discussion even begin and just get mad when it doesn't go their way.
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