re: Current Ram Reliability?

Think so? It's true. Start paying closer attention to brand names and bay doors at dealerships. So if I drive by and see 5 service bay doors at a Ford dealership, and across town the Toyota dealership only has 1 door, why do you think that is? True story, I won't name the city though.

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good thing Toyota gets such favorable PREDICTED reliability scores. cause everyone I know that owns one says the MPG sucks balls.

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If you're worried about 5 mpg more fuel economy on a $50k+ truck, you might want to reconsider if you can really afford a $50k vehicle.

My Denali got ~15.8 mpg on premium gas
My Tundra gets ~15.6 mpg on regular

My office is a sea of new Rams. At least 10 new in the last 6 months. The interior is pretty nice and the ride seems smooth. Only one of the new buyers out of 10 went to arbitration for a lemon law claim.

I can't bring myself to buy a GM product or a Dodge product ever again after they screwed the tax payer because they couldn't figure out how to build a vehicle and not go bankrupt. Screw them, too big to fail my arse. You stole money from my family and every other American taxpayer. You won't get another cent from me.

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Think so?

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Yes. People don’t only go to dealership service departments for repairs and recalls, mostly oil changes and routine maintenance.

I couldn’t tell you precisely why or how dealers choose the number or service bays to include, but I’d be willing to bet it has little to do with predicted reliability.

Ok Boomer.

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The reality of the situation is that half ton truck buyers rarely need those max capability stats and the companies use them for marketing. Ram somewhat gambled on this buy putting a coil sprung rear suspension in the 1500 back in 2009 and I think it was a smart gamble.

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I was dead set against a Ram for a long time until I got one as a rental and it definitely changed my mind. It had a ton of power and was really comfortable. Honestly speaking, I didn't like it quite as much as my Tundra but liked it more than Chevy and Ford.

I do carry large loads quite frequently. Not daily, but at least monthly generally. Building material, steel, loads of dirt, welding equipment etc. . . Went to load a crap ton of plywood in my buddy's Ram, and it squatted the rear end a LOT. I supposed it was a trade-off for a smoother ride. Understandable

Thanks for answering the question.

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you're worried about 5 mpg more fuel economy on a $50k+ truck, you might want to reconsider if you can really afford a $50k vehicle.

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lol, is a $50K vehicle supposed to be special?

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My Tundra gets ~15.6 mpg on regular

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the 10 or 12 guys I know that use them for highway travel (sales) claim they only get around 13MPG. I guess if you just grocery grab with them in town, 15.6 is great.
But my Silverado gets around 19-21 MPG commuting from BR to Laffy. Its not changing they way I live, but it beats the shite out of the alleged 13-15 MPG if you are putting 30,000+ miles on your vehicle annually.

Car and Driver Ram Review after 40,000 miles

We Love Everything about Our 2019 Long-Term Ram 1500 Except for One Annoying Flaw

At the halfway point in its 40,000-mile stay, our pickup continues to impress us…whenever its infotainment system is not acting up.

While the system works far more often than it doesn't, the hiccups come with enough frequency that they're starting to draw the ire of our editors.

In addition to an unresponsive screen, we've experienced several episodes where the Ram's sound system won't play any audio. While the sound eventually comes back, we haven't figured out what triggers the silence or what fixes it. One driver tried changing the audio sources, hitting the mute button, and turning off the system's power. He then turned the truck off, opened the driver's door, waited 10 seconds, and turned it back on. Still no sound. The audio returned only after the Ram was driven 15 miles, at which point the driver flipped through the sources again and landed on AM radio.

"While my friends were impressed by the leather surfaces and apartment-like back seat, they cursed the infotainment system that refused to respond to inputs and even left us to talk about our feelings for several uncomfortable minutes when it wouldn't play sound," said assistant buyer's guide editor Eric Stafford.

If it weren't for that grating annoyance, our Ram 1500's ownership experience would be entirely positive so far. Since the last update, we patched a puncture in a rear tire for $20. We also paid the dealership $62 to replace the worn windshield wipers at 21,804 miles. The Ram's 20,000-mile scheduled service, which consisted of an oil change, a tire rotation, an engine air filter replacement, and various inspections, cost $103. If that flashy vertical touchscreen were as reliable as our truck's eTorqe-assisted Hemi 5.7-liter V-8, it would practically be faultless.

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I have a 20 ram, they threw in a 100k warranty bumper to bumper for basically nothing.

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Ummm huh.

If that many Fords need servicing that often, it's an inferior product. Our local Ford dealer's slogan is Service is our Business. It's true because so many Fords need servicing, and that's how a dealer makes a ton of money. Double the labor price, half to shop and half to mechanic, and overpriced name brand parts. But again it's all about the service. lol

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It's still a DODGE, don't care that they just put RAM on it. Trade and re-sell value is kaput.

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My 2014 Ram Limited 1500’s trade in value is still right around $21K.

Sounds like you need to do some research instead of blowing the OT F150 lovers.