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Crowd work has ruined standup comedy

Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:13 pm
Posted by Bonkers119
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:13 pm
Every clip I see on Facebook, Instagram, or TikTok is just some person doing an awful job at crowd work.

There are few comedians who are actually good at and incorporate it well in their routines, ie Sam Morril or Stavros Halkias, but for the most part it’s just bad.

What happened to actually writing and telling funny jokes?
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6505 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:14 pm to
Matt Rife is a pretty good example of this. His act is almost entirely 100% crowd work and its pretty godawful. Really not sure how that guy got famous
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37490 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:14 pm to
People got offended and many comedians are afraid of being cancelled
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
4335 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:15 pm to
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Every clip I see on Facebook, Instagram, or TikTok is just some person doing an awful job at crowd work.


It is very difficult for a comedian to come up with an original 30-1 hr set. If they showed their actual jokes on these social media clips there is no incentive for folks to attend the shows.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118755 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:15 pm to
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What happened to actually writing and telling funny jokes?


The bad one probably get ChatGPT to write their jokes.
Posted by lsurulz1515
Member since Mar 2007
5615 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:16 pm to
A lot of crowd work is fantastic. You mentioned Morril and Halkias, but lesser names like Dan Soder and Big Jay Oakerson have fantastic stand-alone crowd work sets out there.
And I know I'll get shite on for this, but people who say Matt Rife is bad at crowd work have not seen truly awful crowd work
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79179 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:17 pm to
I guess I'm not a purist because I found Rife to be amusing enough

granted I've watched like 5 minutes of clips total

Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27131 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:17 pm to
I don’t know why but I want to blame Dane Cook.
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
2981 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:17 pm to
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Crowd work has ruined standup comedy



Political Correctness and Totalitarian Progressivism ruined comedy.
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
1604 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:18 pm to
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It is very difficult for a comedian to come up with an original 30-1 hr set. If they showed their actual jokes on these social media clips there is no incentive for folks to attend the shows


This

Unless it was a clip from an already released special, you will not see much else from legit comedians on social media as they refine their bits, or at least that's what I've learned from listening to Rogan.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79179 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:18 pm to
I don't know if it ruined it, but in the era of men trying to get pregnant it's pretty insane that so much material is being left off to the side
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11098 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:19 pm to
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I don’t know why but I want to blame Dane Cook.



Huh? Dane cook actually had material and didn't rely on the crowd.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55583 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:20 pm to
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People got offended and many comedians are afraid of being cancelled
it’s not 2016 anymore. Louis J Gomez and Nick Mullen drop hard Rs and still sell out shows and have advertisers
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
12659 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:21 pm to
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Matt Rife is a pretty good example of this. His act is almost entirely 100% crowd work and its pretty godawful. Really not sure how that guy got famous


I know it’s “the thing” nowadays to hate him, but he’s actually pretty good at crowd work. Better than most of the trash doing it these days.

His actual standup is terrible…and for that, I wonder how he gets specials. I know his Netflix one was met with similar reviews.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118755 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:22 pm to
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I guess I'm not a purist because I found Rife to be amusing enough



I had to google him.

The first five minutes so far are pretty good.

I entered this thread not fully understanding the meaning of crowd work. If Matt Rife is an example I have no issue with it.
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11098 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:22 pm to
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I know it’s “the thing” nowadays to hate him, but he’s actually pretty good at crowd work.


I agree. He does well engaging
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35368 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:22 pm to
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Huh? Dane cook actually had material and didn't rely on the crowd.




Yeah it just sucked. Why he had one of the shortest runs as one of the top comics. Once people realized screaming everything isn't funny he was toast
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112610 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:22 pm to
Most comedians vote for Biden or Bernie and say whatever they want to

Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:22 pm to
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It is very difficult for a comedian to come up with an original 30-1 hr set. If they showed their actual jokes on these social media clips there is no incentive for folks to attend the shows.
I always get a chuckle when people don't get this and just say "all comedians do now is crowd work". No, that's just all they show on social media because their set took them years to create. I've seen several in interviews say a lot of people come into their show and immediately expect them to do crowd work when they've spent years creating their 1/2-1 hour sets. The crowd work is just 5-10 minutes at the end of the show. Yes, it's all they show on social media, but that's because they've spent years on that set. Why give it away just so you can hear it again?!
Posted by PrawnMichaels
Member since Aug 2019
173 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 12:23 pm to
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Really not sure how that guy got famous


Nima Yamini knows how he got famous!
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